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trainerjyms
I have gone from 304 to 234 in the last year and been stuck there for some time. I have slowly started to creep back up and have decided I want to go hard before my 50th Bday in 13 months. I was thinking of just moving from the standard ECA that I have used for the last couple years and trying some T3 and maybe some Anavar to both kill the appetite and maintain some muscle while hitting the diet/training again.
Though Var is sometimes written about as being an appetite suppressant, it isn't. Generally speaking, all anabolic steroids increase hunger which helps them perform their primary goal of weight gain, and as a legitimate steroid Var is no exception. Even combining it with T3, which helps burn fat won't make this a weight loss stack. Fat loss and weight loss are not necessarily synonymous, though they can be with the right knowledge and application.
This segues nicely into your first flaw, you will gain...not lose weight with Anavar. When bb'ers take it (and other compounds) to cut, they manipulate diet and training variables to lean out but this is largely contingent upon the types, frequency, and amounts of foods consumed, and the kind of and frequency of training participated in...which primarily (along with estro levels, water retention, etc.) dictate lean muscle or massive muscle development. Steroids (even without training in bedridden clinical settings) were SPECIFICALLY designed to increase muscle/weight gain, and they do so quite well. So you can look forward to more weight, not less. You initially mentioned growing weary of the ECA stack and wanting to try this, but remember Var is an anabolic steroid, not an alternative weight loss supplement.
Stats
48 yrs old
6'3" 235lbs 20%BF give or take
Personal trainer (so plenty of gym time and experience)
last cycle was in my late 20s using just some winny. useless attempt
Would starting on T3 for 6-8 weeks x 25mcg
Firstly, Cytomel (T3) is not to be run without anabolic steroids, because it will catabolize both fat and muscle for stored energy. Thus in the absence of aas, T3 is counterproductive to bb'er training goals.
Secondly, supplementing 25 mcg/ed won't be enough to incite genuine metabolic enhancement, though some may be experienced. Daily dosages of higher than 50 mcg are required, most plateau at 75 mcg, which is often considered optimally safe, whereas some go higher.
and then adding 40-50 mcg Var for 6 weeks with T3 be enough?
40 mg/ed of Var, not "mcg", generally provides minimal anabolic results, though some choose lower dosages with reduced benefit. What it boils down to is, Var is a dose-dependent steroid, i.e. the higher the dosage the better the anabolic results. However, the 'Law of Diminishing Returns' kicks in at dosages greater than 80 mg of this steroid, so most users plateau right at 80 mg/ed. However, you are always encouraged to manipulate your dosages (within the parameters of safety) to find what best suits your goals. Regardless of dosage, be sure to divide it into two daily servings of at least eight (8) hours apart to sustain optimal blood serum concentrations of Anavar's in light of its very short half-life.
I haven't got any PCT or anything yet either because I actually ordered the Anavar without. Always understood it wasn't necessary if I was taking 40-50mcg but after reading around here I think I do.
This is a common misconception, but as clearly expressed above, Var is a legitimate anabolic steroid and as such warrants legitimate PCT.
I'm not looking for huge gains, just really need to lean out, get stronger and in overall better shape.
As a trainer you know that leaning out, is a product of diet. Nothing you take Clen, T3, Var, Test, is going to lean you out unless you tame that table. This appears to be a problem for you, not simply because you've plateaued at this weight, but also because your bf is higher than it should be, especially for someone whose vocation is indicative of training knowledge and time spent at in the gym. You should visit the Diet Forum on this website to overhaul yours, else your cycle will be far less rewarding. I won't argue your decision to run Var-only, but Test Is Best, and technically should be the foundation to any cycle...just making sure you know.
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