Strange and annoying

[justo]

I started tri sust 6 weeks ago.. I gained 18lbs in 4-5 weeks I went from 11stone to 12 stone 4...ive now started my second vial and I think it's fake because I'm still eating a lot and today I woke up and I am 12stone 1....wtf! Absolutely no pip from the 2 jabs ive had out of this vial...what should I do?

[austinite]

No clue what stones are. Get blood work now and again later to see if you're still compounding serum T.

[justo]

No clue what stones are. Get blood work now and again later to see if you're still compounding serum T.

Could the gear be bunk

[austinite]

Of course. Anything is possible.

[justo]

Of course. Anything is possible.

Would you say the gear is bunk... No pip and losing 2-3lb? After changing vial?

[austinite]

No. I wouldn't. Come on man... you should know me by now. No blood work, no answer. I don't like guessing games. Could be different oil.

[justo]

No. I wouldn't. Come on man... you should know me by now. No blood work, no answer. I don't like guessing games. Could be different oil.

I fully understand... I'll see how it goes for couple days if I'm still losing ill go from there. Thanks

[marcus300]

I will tell you what is strange and annoying, you cycling at 154lbs and being told over and over again not to cycle and sort your diet out.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...tique-mee.html

http://forums.steroid.com/questions-...rst-cycle.html

You will lose every lbs you have gained, just give it a few weeks after the cycle ends, you have been told this over and over again but you don't listen so why even ask questions.

You have no idea what your doing, how to eat or how to train - hard truths but unless you sort yourself out your going to be in this circle of gaining and losing all your gains for a long time...

I am trying to help you even though you may think I am not.....

[justo]

I will tell you what is strange and annoying, you cycling at 154lbs and being told over and over again not to cycle and sort your diet out.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...tique-mee.html

http://forums.steroid.com/questions-...rst-cycle.html

You will lose every lbs you have gained, just give it a few weeks after the cycle ends, you have been told this over and over again but you don't listen so why even ask questions.

You have no idea what your doing, how to eat or how to train - hard truths but unless you sort yourself out your going to be in this circle of gaining and losing all your gains for a long time...

I am trying to help you even though you may think I am not.....

I'm 169 lbs and if you look at my progress thread I'm sure you will take your comment back..unless your just ignorant.

[t-dogg]

I started tri sust 6 weeks ago.. I gained 18lbs in 4-5 weeks I went from 11stone to 12 stone 4...ive now started my second vial and I think it's fake because I'm still eating a lot and today I woke up and I am 12stone 1....wtf! Absolutely no pip from the 2 jabs ive had out of this vial...what should I do?

18lbs in the first 4-4wks?



Sounds like you just started eating more lol.

[justo]

18lbs in the first 4-4wks?

Sounds like you just started eating more lol.

What do u mean by this?

[marcus300]

I'm 169 lbs and if you look at my progress thread I'm sure you will take your comment back..unless your just ignorant.

You started cycling at 154lbs and you think I am ignorant when you been told over and over again not to cycle at that weight....

don't worry just ignore my posts,

i wont post again

[Capebuffalo]

Your question "What should I do?". You're doing exactly what you should be doing. Coming here on several different occasions asking for help, you found us we did not come looking for you, and then totally disregard what everyone tells you. You are too young and too light. Oh sorry new stat 168 lbs. wait for it.....still too light. Why waste your time and ours if you don't heed the advice given. Oh that's right just start a new thread and ask again and don't listen yet again. Thank you for all you do. You have a bright future.

[justo]

Your question "What should I do?". You're doing exactly what you should be doing. Coming here on several different occasions asking for help, you found us we did not come looking for you, and then totally disregard what everyone tells you. You are too young and too light. Oh sorry new stat 168 lbs. wait for it.....still too light. Why waste your time and ours if you don't heed the advice given. Oh that's right just start a new thread and ask again and don't listen yet again. Thank you for all you do. You have a bright future.

So how comes everyone said good progress on my other thread?

[justo]

And according to crazy mike there's no such thing as being to Light to cycle? I train extremely hard eat a lot...all I think about is gym (and sex on cycle) I'm hearing a lot of different things from different ppl.

[Capebuffalo]

So how comes everyone said good progress on my other thread?

Didn't see where you mention you're 23 and 150 lbs.

Pm crazy mike and ask if there is too young of an age to start.

[t-dogg]

What do u mean by this?

Can you lay out the entire cycle plan? Diet plan? Training routine?



That will help everyone and yourself out.



I will say this though. Everything you gained on gear could have been most likely done just eating right, lifting right, and sleep.

[justo]

Can you lay out the entire cycle plan? Diet plan? Training routine?

That will help everyone and yourself out.

I will say this though. Everything you gained on gear could have been most likely done just eating right, lifting right, and sleep.

T dog I'm not being rude but I dont really want your help! I look better then you! As for the others I will happily take ur advice...btw I'm 24!

[spiralkut]

Lol you looking better doesnt mean your knowledge is more. Believe me cause I look better then you.

[cutting_king]

T dog I'm not being rude but I dont really want your help! I look better then you! As for the others I will happily take ur advice...btw I'm 24!

Drop the attitude

[justo]

Drop the attitude

I'm not giving attitude at all. I train my ass off and force feed myself to the point where I'm going to regurgitate it all back up! I don't need this guy telling me I could of gained 18lbs in 4 weeks natural! That's the most bollox I've ever heard! Is that really knowledge?

[justo]

Lol you looking better doesnt mean your knowledge is more. Believe me cause I look better then you.

And your 21 and tried How many cycles! Please guys don't be hypocrites! All I want is help

[marcus300]

I'm not giving attitude at all. I train my ass off and force feed myself to the point where I'm going to regurgitate it all back up! I don't need this guy telling me I could of gained 18lbs in 4 weeks natural! That's the most bollox I've ever heard! Is that really knowledge?

Ok last chance for you to stop being immature and not seeing the bigger picture. You had no base , no foundation and at 5ft 10" at 154 lbs starting a cycle your going to lose all your new found bodyweight, because your diet isn't good enough to support any new tissue if it was you wouldn't be the size you was before the cycle. What you gained isn't the true you, give it 6 months steroid free after the cycle and you will lose all the gains. No base, you don't know how to eat to gain and build muscle and you dont know how to train, if you did you wouldn't of been 154lbs pre cycle.

Stop seeing the short results and look further down the line were your test is crashed and your struggling to maintain your new founds weight, also the weight you have gained isn't muscle in 4 weeks its water retention for the steroids. You have asked for advice in 3-4 threads and you got the same answers so why don't you listen to guys who know what they are talking because its plain to see you don't.

You have zero knowledge on the subject and we have been training and taking gear longer than you have been alive, so listen and understand you need to build a base and if you cant naturally at your age then you aren't on steroids.

I'm out now.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

i know a young bodybuilder feels like everything happens on a certain "timeline" you wanna be huge by "then" for this summer, or that winter, or whatever. Let me tell you....time goes by fast bro. Look ahead. Relax a bit..really experiment with natty training. I can tell you after many injuries, the mindset of having a "timeline" for what you wanna do, kinda goes out the window. My injuries have set me back, but they also taught me patience, and have given me a broader view. You have to stop think in terms of your "divine plan" it's gonna make you want to rush shit. Also, i belive whole heartedly that steroids are significantly more suppressive at a younger age than after 25. My first cycle i did at 20, and the guy i bought my sustanon from was trying to get rid of a couple amps of deca, so i bought them cheap even tho no one sticks two shots of deca at the end of a cycle, but just figured what the hell. Well, for most of my sust cycle my nuts didnt shrink that much, but a WEEK after the first deca shot my nuts were like raisins, i swear.
Now get this....i've been on trt for two years now, and have been on deca 4x higher than the small two shots i administered at 20 , (they were only 100mg amps), and have done deca/nandrolone 5 times since then at higher and longer doses. My NUTS should be grains of sand, but they havent changed. They are about 30% smaller after starting trt, but never decrease more with any cycle i run, including deca(deca/nandrolone is very suppressive). And at 20, just TWO measly shots of 100mgs each shut me down hard and instantly. Wait till your 25 mate. I didnt do my second cycle till i was 25 and my balls did not shrink as much and that cycle included deca.