What are the best steroids?

[hustler101]

Which one's are the best?

d-Anabol? Deca? Tren? Test?
These are the famous ones..

But which one's deliver results, at the fastest time with the least amount of side effects?

I'm planning to do a cycle with a personal coach and I need to do my cycle correctly.

Which one's would you guys recommend?

Also is injecting liquid form more effective then pill form?


Thanks guys

[bullshark99]

Hustler, based on that question pls read austine sticky on first cycle, seems you got some education to do before you are g2g.

[ghettoboyd]

me, I like foodadrol...theres nothing more anabolic...

[hustler101]

I been eating food my whole life.. I dunno man.. I dont seem to be gaining any muscle... only love handles

[spywizard]

then you are doing it wrong

[spywizard]

perfect example, if you take test injectable (which is the best) and the base of any good cycle..

And you don't eat correctly, all you will do is make bigger fat cells..

[DAAS]

Tren is considered the god of all steroids, but there are specific ones for specific goals or purposes. All in all your diet is the most effective along with rest and training. Tren is not recommended for beginners, and test should always be the base of any cycle. Its great on its own also.

[derekkpapa1]

if you can't diet and train correct what makes you think cycling will be any different

[MuscleInk]

I been eating food my whole life.. I dunno man.. I dont seem to be gaining any muscle... only love handles

Are you eating above or below your TDEE? If you aren't sure, steroids aren't the answer. No matter what gear you take, nutrition drives growth not steroids. If you don't eat to support and maintain growth, steroids will not do it for you.

Steroids are where you finish, not where you start.

[Bert]

Build a natty base first.

[hustler101]

Are you eating above or below your TDEE? If you aren't sure, steroids aren't the answer. No matter what gear you take, nutrition drives growth not steroids. If you don't eat to support and maintain growth, steroids will not do it for you.

Steroids are where you finish, not where you start.

I try to eat as best as I can.. I even bought the ISO bag with 6 meals stacked on the go.

I'm starting training with a personal trainer, who can push me beyond my normal workout durability.

I have march, april and may to get big and get ripped.
I'm thinking march and april... I stack muscle.. using perhaps 2 or 3 steroids..
(Which one's would you guys recommend me?) Test and D-anabol? Or test and Tren?
I already tried test300 and deca 2 years ago.. and I stopped after 5 weeks because I was getting too aggressive. However I did gain 13lbs of musce in 3 weeks which was really good to see. =)


And in the month of may I will cut using a steroid for cutting weight

There is no doubt I can gain 20 lbs of muscle in 2 months.. I think its possible especially with my trainer and the way we work out (80 - 90 min) with hardly any breaks in between sets or reps.

I just need the right stuff

[Back In Black]

I try to eat as best as I can.. I even bought the ISO bag with 6 meals stacked on the go.

I'm starting training with a personal trainer, who can push me beyond my normal workout durability.

I have march, april and may to get big and get ripped.
I'm thinking march and april... I stack muscle.. using perhaps 2 or 3 steroids..
(Which one's would you guys recommend me?) Test and D-anabol? Or test and Tren?
I already tried test300 and deca 2 years ago.. and I stopped after 5 weeks because I was getting too aggressive. However I did gain 13lbs of musce in 3 weeks which was really good to see. =)

no, you absolutely dit not gain 13lbs of muscle in 3 weeks

And in the month of may I will cut using a steroid for cutting weight

There is no doubt I can gain 20 lbs of muscle in 2 months..

You really really need to educate, there is no way you will gain 20lbs of muscle in 2 months.

I think its possible especially with my trainer and the way we work out (80 - 90 min) with hardly any breaks in between sets or reps.

you need a new trainer. Your workout is too long and I'll wager you're rest periods are way too short from this explanation.

I just need the right stuff

food, proper training and time

Come on mate let's hear

Age
Height
Weight
Bodyfat %
Years training
Pct ran after your test/deca cycle?
Current weight gain diet macro's?
Detail your current shoulder routine incl exercises, sets, reps and weights used.

Oh, and tell us what pct you have ran since your terrible on/off anavar only cycle last month.

[MuscleInk]

Come on mate let's hear

Age
Height
Weight
Bodyfat %
Years training
Pct ran after your test/deca cycle?
Current weight gain diet macro's?
Detail your current shoulder routine incl exercises, sets, reps and weights used.

Oh, and tell us what pct you have ran since your terrible on/off anavar only cycle last month.

^^^All of the above. The process is a marathon, not a sprint. Steroids aren't magic beans. It takes time. You may put 20lbs of fat and/or water on in 2-3 months but certainly not all muscle. Your body cannot grow that fast - steroids or not.

First cycle is testosterone only. No stacking compounds.

[hustler101]

Age: 29
Height: 5'10 + 1/2
Weight: 165lbs
Bodyfat %... around 23%
Years training: 16 years
Pct ran after your test/deca cycle?

I took 2 injections, 1/week.. I spilled 40% of 1 of those injections, however I think my testosterone was restored atleast 80%

Current weight gain diet macro's? (Don't know what this means)

Detail your current shoulder routine incl exercises, sets, reps and weights used.

I do 4 sets of 8 - 12 reps of every exercize with 30 second breaks in between, I don't record my weights on paper, I found it takes lots of paperwork

Oh, and tell us what pct you have ran since your terrible on/off anavar only cycle last month

I just ordered Liquid Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL and Liquid Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL.. which I was planning to take each one daily.. However I might save these for my treatment after my next cycle which will start next week, assuming that these 2 are all I need for treatment

I'm just tired of going to the gym and ripping little to no results.. investing money on the newest protein and creatine knockoffs.. also I'm thinking about getting human growth hormones for anti aging.. and something for injuries as well since I do MMA and get hurt quite often. Im a pretty hard worker, definately not 1 of those fat slobs you see in the gym.

[king6 II]

Steroids won't gain you muscle.....Steroids plus diet will. If you don't know what your bulking macros are then there is doubt whether you will get anything decent out of your cycle. Bulking macros are based on your total daily energy expenditures, or how many calories you burn in a day, and how many calories you need to maintain your current weight. Once you figure all that out you need a surplus of calories. That surplus needs to consist of a specific percentage of good fats, complex carbs and protein. There are so many formulas and explanations out there you will have an understanding of it in as little as a half an hour if you just take the time to research.

[Back In Black]

Age: 29
Height: 5'10 + 1/2
Weight: 165lbs
Bodyfat %... around 23%
Years training: 16 years
Pct ran after your test/deca cycle?

I took 2 injections, 1/week.. I spilled 40% of 1 of those injections, however I think my testosterone was restored atleast 80%

Current weight gain diet macro's? (Don't know what this means)

Detail your current shoulder routine incl exercises, sets, reps and weights used.

I do 4 sets of 8 - 12 reps of every exercize with 30 second breaks in between, I don't record my weights on paper, I found it takes lots of paperwork

Oh, and tell us what pct you have ran since your terrible on/off anavar only cycle last month

I just ordered Liquid Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL and Liquid Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL.. which I was planning to take each one daily.. However I might save these for my treatment after my next cycle which will start next week, assuming that these 2 are all I need for treatment

I'm just tired of going to the gym and ripping little to no results.. investing money on the newest protein and creatine knockoffs.. also I'm thinking about getting human growth hormones for anti aging.. and something for injuries as well since I do MMA and get hurt quite often. Im a pretty hard worker, definately not 1 of those fat slobs you see in the gym.

Holy shit?

No offence mate but I think you have run one terrible PCT and then not bothered with another. And you are going to fix this problem by what, running another hair brained cycle?

165lbs at 23% indicates an awfully poor workout and nutrition knowledge. You don't even know what workouts you do and don't even know what a macronutrients is (that's carbs/protein/fat).

You need to fire your trainer and spend your money on food. Go to our nutrition forum and post up your stats and diet and let those guys look after you if you aren't a troll.

[Back In Black]

And you should really consider running a proper pct right now and then get bloodwork 6 weeks after that to see where your levels are.

[cj111]

What have you been doing for these last 16 years ?

[spywizard]

Age: 29
Height: 5'10 + 1/2
Weight: 165lbs
Bodyfat %... around 23%
Years training: 16 years
Pct ran after your test/deca cycle?

I took 2 injections, 1/week.. I spilled 40% of 1 of those injections, however I think my testosterone was restored atleast 80%

Current weight gain diet macro's? (Don't know what this means)

Detail your current shoulder routine incl exercises, sets, reps and weights used.

I do 4 sets of 8 - 12 reps of every exercize with 30 second breaks in between, I don't record my weights on paper, I found it takes lots of paperwork

Oh, and tell us what pct you have ran since your terrible on/off anavar only cycle last month

I just ordered Liquid Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL and Liquid Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL.. which I was planning to take each one daily.. However I might save these for my treatment after my next cycle which will start next week, assuming that these 2 are all I need for treatment

I'm just tired of going to the gym and ripping little to no results.. investing money on the newest protein and creatine knockoffs.. also I'm thinking about getting human growth hormones for anti aging.. and something for injuries as well since I do MMA and get hurt quite often. Im a pretty hard worker, definately not 1 of those fat slobs you see in the gym.

ok, so with this workout routine you are increasing your endurance.. which is a good thing, however your stated goal is body re composition..

If you are working with personal trainer, have you informed them you will be doing a steroid cycle?? most will not train you if you are on something like that.. good reason..

and still you have not stated a diet... caloric intake nothing..

example.

m1 2 eggs 4 egg whites 1 cup stone rolled oats
m2 1 chicken breast 1 cup green beans
m3 1 tin tuna with lettuce/carrots/tomato lemon for flavor
workout
m4 pwo shake 40g protein mixed with water with dextrose
m5 chicken breast 1 sweet potato
m6 2 chicken breasts 6 grams of fish oils greens


etc...

[Capebuffalo]

Is it even possible to only weigh 165 lbs and be at 23% bf and 5-10.5?

[tarmyg]

Current weight gain diet macro's? (Don't know what this means)

This is your answer to why you are not gaining weight! Please learn how to eat!

~T

[tomx91]

I think maybe a read in the nutrition section will help you out. I also considered gear a year or 2 ago and decided to wait until I have a good foundation, why not wait until you and your trainer reach a plateau and your nutrition is top notch bro?

[< <Samson> >]

What are the best steroids?

I got a few more:

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What's the best car?

What's the best phone?


Oh ppl

[tomx91]

Best car has to be Aston Martin DB5 ..

[redz]

Please don't do anymore cycles you need to learn to eat and train.

[hustler101]

Holy shit?

No offence mate but I think you have run one terrible PCT and then not bothered with another. And you are going to fix this problem by what, running another hair brained cycle?

165lbs at 23% indicates an awfully poor workout and nutrition knowledge. You don't even know what workouts you do and don't even know what a macronutrients is (that's carbs/protein/fat).

You need to fire your trainer and spend your money on food. Go to our nutrition forum and post up your stats and diet and let those guys look after you if you aren't a troll.

I just got off Anavar 2 months ago, and I feel my testosterone levels are somewhat back to normal.

My body fat is more like 20%, 21% now that I think about it... Firstly I haven't trained with my trainer for 8 months now.. I been training alone, I couldnt train with my trainer for more then twice/ week... not because he charges 40$/hour but because of the intensity of the workout, which increased my muscle recovery and durability exponentially.

Normally I'm only able to do 50% by myself as compared when I'm with my trainer. I predict, 20lbs to 30lbs of gain by end of april.. and then with cutting... by end of May I should be 185 lbs 12% bodyfat

I admit I'm don't know much about nutrition, however I'm taking an online course now, and I don't know how much energy/calories my body releases per day, or how many carbs/protein/fat I consume.. I'm definitely trying to get this part handled, especially because I put on fat so easily.

[hustler101]

And you should really consider running a proper pct right now and then get bloodwork 6 weeks after that to see where your levels are.

Proper pct cycle? and bloodwork only after 6 weeks?
We will be by end of april then, and I won't have time to bulk up for the summer


Why is it such a big deal to run another cycle, especially when you're using injections like "Danabol or Test" which will shoot your testosterone through the roof.. isn't your body gonna stop producing testosterone anyhow after a few weeks on the cycle? Which means you will need to run another PCT after your next cylce?

I'm all about health and safety, but I just wanna understand why I need to bring my levels to normal before I can run another cycle... In my case I feel my levels are not back atleast 75%, naturally through squats and regular training.

[hustler101]

I think maybe a read in the nutrition section will help you out. I also considered gear a year or 2 ago and decided to wait until I have a good foundation, why not wait until you and your trainer reach a plateau and your nutrition is top notch bro?

I wanna look good now bro... its gonna be summer time. If I focus on my nutrition now, I can get my bodyfat down to 17% by the time I finish my cycle... and then to 10% by end of may during cutting.. does this seem realistic to you?

[MuscleInk]

Proper pct cycle? and bloodwork only after 6 weeks?
We will be by end of april then, and I won't have time to bulk up for the summer

Why is it such a big deal to run another cycle, especially when you're using injections like "Danabol or Test" which will shoot your testosterone through the roof.. isn't your body gonna stop producing testosterone anyhow after a few weeks on the cycle? Which means you will need to run another PCT after your next cylce?

I'm all about health and safety, but I just wanna understand why I need to bring my levels to normal before I can run another cycle... In my case I feel my levels are not back atleast 75%, naturally through squats and regular training.

If health and safety is essential, you should understand that time off = time on+PCT for a reason. In addition to suppressing your endocrine system, steroids impair lipid metabolism, raise cholesterol, suppress your immune system and more. Taking time off is critical to recovery on many levels. Longer cycles and more frequent use will lead to an increased risk for long term problems.

Moreover, if these were your goals, you should have started sooner. You CAN NOT rush this no matter how bad you want it and the kind of gains you are expecting are not possible with respect to LEAN MUSCLE. You cannot put that kind of lean muscle on in that short period of time. Your body cannot grow that face.

Be realistic and reasonable with your use and goals.

[hustler101]

I was only on anavar for 2.5 weeks, and It was something like 1 day on, 1 day off..
I feel it was more of an "oops I popped a few pills to try it" kinda cycle... and I already feel my levels are back naturally at around 75%... so it wasnt like I went full out on anavar..

[Alirezo0o]

I was only on anavar for 2.5 weeks, and It was something like 1 day on, 1 day off..
I feel it was more of an "oops I popped a few pills to try it" kinda cycle... and I already feel my levels are back naturally at around 75%... so it wasnt like I went full out on anavar..

16 years of workout and no gain??!! common bro! definitely you haven't been so serious about you diet and workout routine like 1 day on 6 days off. Look up for a calorie calculator and first adjust your diet. Then get a nice workout routine which fits your metabolism (low range or high range of reps). then after 2 years of consistency and solid diet think about AAS.
which steroid is the best?? IMO leg day!

[Back In Black]

I just got off Anavar 2 months ago, and I feel my testosterone levels are somewhat back to normal.

My body fat is more like 20%, 21% now that I think about it... Firstly I haven't trained with my trainer for 8 months now.. I been training alone, I couldnt train with my trainer for more then twice/ week... not because he charges 40$/hour but because of the intensity of the workout, which increased my muscle recovery and durability exponentially.

Normally I'm only able to do 50% by myself as compared when I'm with my trainer. I predict, 20lbs to 30lbs of gain by end of april.. and then with cutting... by end of May I should be 185 lbs 12% bodyfat

I admit I'm don't know much about nutrition, however I'm taking an online course now, and I don't know how much energy/calories my body releases per day, or how many carbs/protein/fat I consume.. I'm definitely trying to get this part handled, especially because I put on fat so easily.

Proper pct cycle? and bloodwork only after 6 weeks?
We will be by end of april then, and I won't have time to bulk up for the summer


Why is it such a big deal to run another cycle, especially when you're using injections like "Danabol or Test" which will shoot your testosterone through the roof.. isn't your body gonna stop producing testosterone anyhow after a few weeks on the cycle? Which means you will need to run another PCT after your next cylce?

I'm all about health and safety, but I just wanna understand why I need to bring my levels to normal before I can run another cycle... In my case I feel my levels are not back atleast 75%, naturally through squats and regular training.

I wanna look good now bro... its gonna be summer time. If I focus on my nutrition now, I can get my bodyfat down to 17% by the time I finish my cycle... and then to 10% by end of may during cutting.. does this seem realistic to you?

You're right.

We are wrong.

Fvck it kidda, go and learn the hard way. Stack your gear as much as you like you'll look awesome. Same as you do after 16 years of training.

GUYS, THIS GUY IS NOTHING MORE THAN A TROLL. PLEASE DONT FEED HIM.

[lovbyts]

I wanna look good now bro... its gonna be summer time. If I focus on my nutrition now, I can get my bodyfat down to 17% by the time I finish my cycle... and then to 10% by end of may during cutting.. does this seem realistic to you?

29? Yeah right... 19 maybe.
You want to look good NOW, This summer. Typical young kid wanting instant gratification. What about next summer when you cant get your dick up and you are still trying to recover from doing bad cycles? What about the year after that when you have some other mystery alements your and your doctor cant figure out? What about 5 years from now when you are diagnosed with Low T, broke because you lost your job due to not having the energy or go to work everyday and your girlfriend left you do to your low sex drive and being a broke ass looser with no job?

How about concentrating on long term heath and how you look and feel this year, next and the foreseeable future? We like to say here it's not a sprint, it's a marathon.

I'm done also.

[hustler101]

I train 5 times / week now (Have been for a 2 years now).. If I'm not doing heavy weights I'm doing cardio and kickboxing. I haven't been serious about my diet bcuz of the lack of information out there, but my workout yes I have, 170lbs, 20% bodyfat seems to be my plateau

[lovbyts]

I train 5 times / week now (Have been for a 2 years now).. If I'm not doing heavy weights I'm doing cardio and kickboxing. I haven't been serious about my diet bcuz of the lack of information out there, but my workout yes I have, 170lbs, 20% bodyfat seems to be my plateau

that's not called a plateau, that's called a diet that sucks. Yeah I use to weight 165 lbs until I learned how to eat properly. It's not about just eating more but eating the right food.

Be serious about your diet for the next couple of years.

[itsjayman02]

I train 5 times / week now (Have been for a 2 years now).. If I'm not doing heavy weights I'm doing cardio and kickboxing. I haven't been serious about my diet bcuz of the lack of information out there, but my workout yes I have, 170lbs, 20% bodyfat seems to be my plateau

Rubbish!!

You are feeding off the vets this thread is a waste of good advice from knowledgeable members!!

[hustler101]

Dude, I'm telling you the truth

[hustler101]

I was gonna get steroids but now I might actually do my PTC for health and safety
And I guess getting your blood samples done is standard procedure around here..
I didn't know your hormone levels need to be back to normal before doing another cycle
Blood tests.. calorie output calculations?... Gee who woulda thought you'd find this advice on a steroid forum!

[lovbyts]

It's because this is NOT a source board like most of the others. We are more of a family/community looking out for heath and well being #1

[noon]

Is it even possible to only weigh 165 lbs and be at 23% bf and 5-10.5?

I was thinking this my self seems like a slight frame to hold 23 % body fat.