first ghrp6/mod grf cycle info needed-rest intervals?

[formworkbeau]

Considering doing ghrp6 and mod grf for my first cycle
Im 92kgs about 16-17%bf and 5,11 23 years old
Have been training naturally since i was about 18 on and off but ive been consistant for about 3 years now,training splits constanly change but more than often i train 6 times a week

Ive never done and cant do steriods becasue they arent available to me but these peptides are and from the research ive done so far them seem like a good place to start anyway.

So anyway dosage seems to be ideal for beginners at 100mcg of each 3x a day, my question is what can i expect to see from using these compounds and how long should they be ran for? Ive heard lots of theories ranging from 1 day off a week to 4 weeks on 4 off and 6 weeks on 1 week off? So if anyone could provide me with some info as to whats actually needed for rest periods id be grateful, considering ive read that the body will adapt to these compounds there logically has to be some ideal period for using and having a break from them?

[956Vette]

Please reconsider running GHRP/GHRH peptide hormones as they will likely not be worthwhile given your age, stats and natural hormone levels. Had your curiosity get the better of you, you'll feel like a pincushion after so many injections and be left with a lighter wallet. Furthermore the theories mentioned about dosing for one month on & off are completely bogus and make zero sense for growth hormone secretagogues. Stay away and best of luck!

[formworkbeau]

Thanks for the reply mate, i kind of figured it would have little benifit at my age, but even if i ran if for a year and gained 5kgs of lean muscle in addition to my normal gains id be happy, id rather do aas but refuse to use anything unless its percribed as i have serious trust issues and have seen first hand what bunk gear can do to someone, unfortunately it seems its become a common hobby to make fake gear and rip people off so as sad as it seems this is the only real choice i have to further myself in body building, ive trained long enough naturally and it really is time to step it up if i ever want compete at a high level in years to come

[956Vette]

Maybe analyzing your blood work will show you the best insights on where to go next with your drugs and/or supplementation? Keep in mind that high testosterone and lbm are needed for growth hormones/factors to impact your aesthetics in a positive way.

[formworkbeau]

It requires blood work to be done for me to get them i have naturally high test, i know theres a synergy between test and gh but yeah as i said i cant get test, my mate used ghrp6 before his weight went up a kg or 2 but body composition changed completly so even if it had similar affects on me i guess id be happy, he is 28 so levels would be similar to mine from what ive read they dont really drop until at least 30?

[956Vette]

If you have natural high testosterone then it's good to know you don't need to rely on synthetic & you may benefit from GHRP-6 as did your mate. GHRP-6 is great for stuffing in huge amounts of calories, while not noticing your bf% increase. Best results I had when running ghrp-6 was during months 6-9, tried to dose around a dozen times per week (of course I was also on TRT and adding GHRH). Lift heavy & eat well my friend, good luck!

[Khazima]

I've been running ghrp-2, Ipam and mod grf for about 2 months now (I'm 20) and haven't noticed any real benefits yet besides well being and better skin, maybe a small increase in LBM could be attributed to it too but I doubt it. Will be running it for a while longer so we'll see though.

[Furious1Auto]

Continuous use of peptides will **** you up. It causes every tissue in your body to grow. Including your heart, intestines & your brain. Your bone structure doesn't grow to accommodate the enlarged tissue. So what happens when your intestines grow to the point where they no longer fit in your stomach? Your abs split, and you get abdominal hernias. What happens when your brain grows to the point where there isn't enough room in your skull for it? You get pressure on your brain making you punchy & stupid. I'm not saying don't use them, only be careful, and cycle off the shit. If you don't believe me watch Rich Piana's YouTube videos on HGH. Dudes been taking the shit forever, and he is more then credible.

[Khazima]

Continuous use of peptides will **** you up. It causes every tissue in your body to grow. Including your heart, intestines & your brain. Your bone structure doesn't grow to accommodate the enlarged tissue. So what happens when your intestines grow to the point where they no longer fit in your stomach? Your abs split, and you get abdominal hernias. What happens when your brain grows to the point where there isn't enough room in your skull for it? You get pressure on your brain making you punchy & stupid. I'm not saying don't use them, only be careful, and cycle off the shit. If you don't believe me watch Rich Piana's YouTube videos on HGH. Dudes been taking the shit forever, and he is more then credible.

Troll?

HGH is not a peptide.

I think you may be delusional, see a doctor.

[formworkbeau]

Mate i have no idea where you get your info from but that is so far from the truth its stupid, im talking doses of 100mcg or 200mcg tops... even at the dosage the pros use which i could only guess would be at least 10x that amount it would not cause those side affects and they have been doing it for years on end, the only side affect that visually takes place from abusing is stuff is the pronounced abdomin, apparently bigger hands and feet/jaw can occour too but i havnt seen any hard evidence to actually back that up! And from what ive read thats igf-1 related anyway... and rich pianna is a fat mess that talks out his ass for the sake of popularity becasue he couldn't cut it as a world class athlete!

[formworkbeau]

What dosages are you running?

[Khazima]

What dosages are you running?

150mcg mod grf 1-29
100mcg GHRP-2
50mcg Ipamorelin

2-4x daily.

+2.5mg TB-500 2x per week.

Those are side effects of synthetic growth hormone, peptides help produce a stronger burst of your already existing growth hormone, as far as i know these side effects don't apply to peptides.

[formworkbeau]

Sounds like a very costly stack, you'll have to let me know how you go! What does the ipamorelin do? And whats tb-500? Ive read a few things about it but never really went into great depth!

[Khazima]

Not really if you know where to buy it, a week costs about 1/3 of what i spend on food per week. Ipam is another GHRP but acts a lot more specifically so it doesn't cause a hunger spike/cortisol spike etc, good for before bed.

TB-500 is a structurally similar chemical to thymosin beta 4, something found in wounds that helps with the healing process, most commonly used (in my case as well) to reduce inflammation and help with the healing of tendinitis/osis/muscle/ligament tears etc.

Here's a basic guide to GHRP/H's

The very Basic guide to GHRP/GHRH Peptides | Team Pscarb

[Gambit11]

Don't know much about peptides: Is injection only option, or can they be taken orally ? I hate to jab myself 3-4 times a day.

[Khazima]

Don't know much about peptides: Is injection only option, or can they be taken orally ? I hate to jab myself 3-4 times a day.

Yes it's the only option, and yes it sucks. It's turned into a chore now but it's basically the same as taken my morning vitamins.

A few weeks later and i can safely say they're having quite a positive effect, i'm leaning out (quite noticeably) as i continue to gain weight. I'm lean bulking and my vascularity is improving as well as still having clear abs (when flexed) but i'm also looking fuller/continuing to get bigger.

I've been questioned by both of the people i workout with whether i jumped on the juice i was (gratefully) talked out of taking when i first came to the forum lol.