Diet critique please

[TheTaxMan]

Hey guys, been messing around with diet slowly improving things and this is how im at now, it suits me well im not too full and matabolism speed is good, i find im more hungry in the morning but want to aid fat loss by having protein only. This diet is slowly lowering my bodyfat and has put on size.

7:00am - Protein Shake (no carbs)

8:30am - 6 boiled egg whites

10:00am - Sardines

11:00am - Home made protein cakes (some carbs and healthy fats, peanut butter in there)

12:30pm - Large bowl of oats, almond milk, banana

2:00pm - Chicken, Rice, Broccoli, Mushrooms, Peppers, Tomatoes

3:30pm - Large bowl of oats, almond milk, banana

4:00pm - Pre work out drink and a cup of green tea

4:30pm - Workout

5:30pm - Protein Shake (no carbs)

7:30pm - Evening Meal consisting some form of potatao, meat or fish, beans, veg and a cup of green tea

9:00pm - Protein Shake (no carbs)

Just looking for general critique, what could be improved, what im lacking etc

I have a protein only morning in hope my body will burn fat cells during that time, i carb at mid day ready for my afternoon workout, and whatever i can get in after my workout is a mix of protein and carbs.

I dont calorie count or weigh my foods.
Looking to lean bulk from my diet.
Am i eating enough? I estimate about 270g pro, not sure about carb or fat amount.

Thanks for reading

[Bio-Active]

To many shakes and not enough carbs. I would replace most of those shakes with whole food

[Back In Black]

^^^^^

And why that many meals? Why not 5 or 6 plus PWO?

[TheTaxMan]

Thanks fellas

The idea was to ramp up my metabloism by eating little and often. Things like 6 eggs and a tin of sardines i wouldnt really class as a meal as such, more snack like?

If i were to swap my 5:30 protein shake for a meal with carbs i wouldnt be to eat my evening meal with my wife. Id be too full, same with my protein shake before bed im full, i could maybe try to stay awake later and squeeze a smal meal in.

I find im full in the afternoon, evening, i really think id struggle eating a meal, downing a protein shake is so much easier

Would you say my current diet was bad? (Im still learning big time on the diet side)

My diet plan was to try and burn fat as well as bulk, i see why they say its one or the other, hard to get a good balance.

Thanks again

[Bio-Active]

Here is the thing. Your body will digest liquid within about 30 minutes were whole food takes about 3-4 hours resulting in more calories burned. I think you would be better to be eating 5-6 smaller meals of whole good through the day to get your macros in and limit the protein liquids to 1-2 times Ed at most. Make sense?

[Back In Black]

A snack is a meal in our cases, no differentiating.

You aren't going to make any significant changes to your metabolism by eating 20 times a day over 6. I'd go mad trying to fit all those meals in and I'd be hungry after every one.

Maybe start counting your macro's too. It's easier to make adjustments that way.

[TheTaxMan]

Thank you for the advice fellas, ive got a few days off work as of tomorrow so can work at it a bit more, brush it up etc

Thanks again much appreciated

[novastepp]

Hey guys, been messing around with diet slowly improving things and this is how im at now, it suits me well im not too full and matabolism speed is good, i find im more hungry in the morning but want to aid fat loss by having protein only. This diet is slowly lowering my bodyfat and has put on size.

7:00am - Protein Shake (no carbs)

add carbs.

8:30am - 6 boiled egg whites

eat this with your carbs at 7.

10:00am - Sardines

you can get rid of this snack

11:00am - Home made protein cakes (some carbs and healthy fats, peanut butter in there)

if you want to eat these, fine. eat them at 10.

12:30pm - Large bowl of oats, almond milk, banana

scrap this

2:00pm - Chicken, Rice, Broccoli, Mushrooms, Peppers, Tomatoes

eat this at 1.

3:30pm - Large bowl of oats, almond milk, banana

you could scrap this

4:00pm - Pre work out drink and a cup of green tea

make this a meal but dont place it too close to your workout so that it makes you sick; if 30 mins is enough time, then its good.

4:30pm - Workout

5:30pm - Protein Shake (no carbs)

add carbs, this is a meal; if its whey that's fine, but eat.

7:30pm - Evening Meal consisting some form of potatao, meat or fish, beans, veg and a cup of green tea

yes

9:00pm - Protein Shake (no carbs)

here is where your daily macro needs will help. this should be pro/carb or pro/fat depending on your needs.

Just looking for general critique, what could be improved, what im lacking etc

I have a protein only morning in hope my body will burn fat cells during that time, i carb at mid day ready for my afternoon workout, and whatever i can get in after my workout is a mix of protein and carbs.

I dont calorie count or weigh my foods.
Looking to lean bulk from my diet.
Am i eating enough? I estimate about 270g pro, not sure about carb or fat amount.

Thanks for reading

I gave a general critique like you asked. I know timing may be an issue, but in general i tried to address timing as well.

You mention that you are going to polish a few things and report back, and that would really help dial it in.

Macros and amounts would be excellent for a more specific critique.

[TheTaxMan]

Thanks Nova very good advice there will take it on board!
Is there any reason to scrap all my oats and potassium intake?

[novastepp]

Thanks Nova very good advice there will take it on board! Is there any reason to scrap all my oats and potassium intake?

No, not specifically. I was speaking more about that meal and its timing. If you wanted to use oats or a banana as a carb source elsewhere, you surely could.

[Khazima]

A snack is a meal in our cases, no differentiating.

You aren't going to make any significant changes to your metabolism by eating 20 times a day over 6. I'd go mad trying to fit all those meals in and I'd be hungry after every one.

Maybe start counting your macro's too. It's easier to make adjustments that way.

This, there's a thread here someone explaining it in more depth, but the amount of caloric burn due to food is due to caloric consumption and the macronutrient breakdown (protein has a higher thermogenic effect) but it's not going to make a difference whether you eat all your calories in one meal, 3 meals, 6 meals, or 66 meals.

[TheTaxMan]

Great info cheers!

As for the oats they are just quick and easy and very cost effective, so i would like to continue using them

[AR's King Silabolin]

Nerd...going for the Olympia??...Man ur serious, almost changed my mind regarding you new cycle. A guy that serious almost earn a new course rigth away:-)

I think the shakes are ok. I only founf one improvment. As i see it. No matter goal and standing i think you need carb after workout. Quick rigth away then slow. Or else your protein will be used as fuel, not as buildingblocks. First thing they thaugth me 25 years ago. I stil stick to that one.

[AR's King Silabolin]

^^^^^

And why that many meals? Why not 5 or 6 plus PWO?

Vet?....hm...come on man...everybody says 10 meals or go home. Well, not everybody but 10++ is the way of the champion. Ask Piana. He promised a 30 pounds gain youtube liveshow after christmas and his first sentence in the teaser was...back to eating 10 times a day!!....Even in the good old days. Remember interwju with Tom Plats and where talking the 80s. A meal every 90 min. No question. Do that or dont bother showing up.

[Back In Black]

Vet?....hm...come on man...everybody says 10 meals or go home. Well, not everybody but 10++ is the way of the champion. Ask Piana. He promised a 30 pounds gain youtube liveshow after christmas and his first sentence in the teaser was...back to eating 10 times a day!!....Even in the good old days. Remember interwju with Tom Plats and where talking the 80s. A meal every 90 min. No question. Do that or dont bother showing up.

Lol, you're a funny fvcker aren't you?! Maybe a pro actually has time to eat every 90 minutes but there is no need really for them and certainly not the rest of us.

What's your hero Piana a champion of? The Internet, that's what. Oh and and a champion of bad advice that you seem to love.

[MrFreshmaker]

Lmfao @ internet champion,so true lol

[AR's King Silabolin]

Lol, you're a funny fvcker aren't you?! Maybe a pro actually has time to eat every 90 minutes but there is no need really for them and certainly not the rest of us.

What's your hero Piana a champion of? The Internet, that's what. Oh and and a champion of bad advice that you seem to love.

picking on Rich...he is picking on Rich!!. is it possible to be downgraded in here

[Back In Black]

picking on Rich...he is picking on Rich!!. is it possible to be downgraded in here

You're already at the bottom, The only way to downgrade you is to ban you.

[novastepp]

Great info cheers!

As for the oats they are just quick and easy and very cost effective, so i would like to continue using them

Very appropriate carb source. Keep using them. No need to sacrifice cost and ease for another source. Many guys use oats at their go to carb source.

[TheTaxMan]

Please dont argue guys i have respect for you all man, hate seeing fallouts but i guess we all have our moments

argue via PM at least tho

Thanks again for the advice fellas!

I personaly think diet is decent, i believe there is ALWAYS room for improvement though.
i just want to make the most of my sus 600 and nandrlone 600 cycle extension (im sure most of you have read about it in my log in the q&a)

I want to gain as close to 14lbs as i can over the next 10 weeks so i can weigh in at a good weight on my height.

[RunMeOver2]

I like the setup man looks good.
Keep up the good work and keep us posted