Debunking roid rage

[Octaneinjected]

This has to be one of the more stereotypical myths out there. Right up there with marijuana is bad for you myths.

Obviously yes, there are maybe two or three (from my knowledge) AAS that have a direct impact on your mentality and will create mood swings.

But from my own heavy delves in reading and such it comes down to the person and self control. Or simply tricking yourself that you are more "alpha" while on while that's literally fabricated in your own imagination.

I've been on up too (regretfully) 1000 megs of Testosterone a week which was completely stupid and me not wanting to quite. I had a heavy sweating job an Amazon warehouse that ate right into all my hard work. Obviously if I did the same job for 11 years, your body adjusts to the work load where the heavy shifts are totally normal and routine and eventually don't eat into your gym gains.

But what I found was that, although very stupid. I was actually super super calm and cool. Nothing bothered me and if anything I was more of a nice guy.

Same with Dbol. Dbol made me super happy and outgoing while Tbol was very neutral. Equipoise, although my body reacted to equipoise beautifully. I ate so much food on equipoise and it helped me get my abs with literally no effort, like hardly went to the gym (yes i know bash me it's bad practice). I found that equipoise did nothing but sky rocket my anxiety to the point where I'll never use it again. It sucks because while experimenting on 800 megs of EQ a week, around week 8 (around the time it actually kicks in because it's a super duper slow steroid) that physically my body just loved it. However the anxiety was out of control.

Obviously Tren would make even the most calm person into a complete asshole but getting back to the point on this stigma and stereotype.

Roid rage. How many of you have had it? Did you learn from it? Have you even had roid rage and you just found yourself acting out on the original anger/temperament you would have even without steroids? What did you do to practice self control if you found yourself prone to easily let the gear get into your head and rent space?

Again from my own reading. It's more about the person then the gear. I'd like to discuss this to debunk an outdated fact that was taught to you in school for your own safety, the same way they taught us that booze and marijuana as evil.


I am in no way condoning the action or supporting ANYONE even consider the use of gear. I'm just curious on anyone else's take on the word bomb and trigger of "roid rage" as a scare tactic to frighten people.

[Cylon357]

This has to be one of the more stereotypical myths out there. Right up there with marijuana is bad for you myths.

Obviously yes, there are maybe two or three (from my knowledge) AAS that have a direct impact on your mentality and will create mood swings.

But from my own heavy delves in reading and such it comes down to the person and self control. Or simply tricking yourself that you are more "alpha" while on while that's literally fabricated in your own imagination.

I've been on up too (regretfully) 1000 megs of Testosterone a week which was completely stupid and me not wanting to quite. I had a heavy sweating job an Amazon warehouse that ate right into all my hard work. Obviously if I did the same job for 11 years, your body adjusts to the work load where the heavy shifts are totally normal and routine and eventually don't eat into your gym gains.

But what I found was that, although very stupid. I was actually super super calm and cool. Nothing bothered me and if anything I was more of a nice guy.

Same with Dbol. Dbol made me super happy and outgoing while Tbol was very neutral. Equipoise, although my body reacted to equipoise beautifully. I ate so much food on equipoise and it helped me get my abs with literally no effort, like hardly went to the gym (yes i know bash me it's bad practice). I found that equipoise did nothing but sky rocket my anxiety to the point where I'll never use it again. It sucks because while experimenting on 800 megs of EQ a week, around week 8 (around the time it actually kicks in because it's a super duper slow steroid) that physically my body just loved it. However the anxiety was out of control.

Obviously Tren would make even the most calm person into a complete asshole but getting back to the point on this stigma and stereotype.

Roid rage. How many of you have had it? Did you learn from it? Have you even had roid rage and you just found yourself acting out on the original anger/temperament you would have even without steroids? What did you do to practice self control if you found yourself prone to easily let the gear get into your head and rent space?

Again from my own reading. It's more about the person then the gear. I'd like to discuss this to debunk an outdated fact that was taught to you in school for your own safety, the same way they taught us that booze and marijuana as evil.


I am in no way condoning the action or supporting ANYONE even consider the use of gear. I'm just curious on anyone else's take on the word bomb and trigger of "roid rage" as a scare tactic to frighten people.

You are preaching to the choir here.

Part of the problem is that, for most of us in the US at least, we can't admit to being on AAS or any PED without possible dire consequences. So, every time someone says "look at that roided out freak being an asshole!", when we come to their defense (if it is warranted), then we all of a sudden have a suspicious eye cast on us.

This is no doubt like many of the people who, in the 60s and 70s, would speak out about weed being safe, then finding themselves subject to "random" stop and frisks by the police.

[956Vette]

Common (adult) mood problems arise (anger/irritability) from experimenting with aromatase inhibitors in an attempt to balance performance enhancing drug use. Children running trenbolone may enjoy sizing up everyone around and learn fast there's little place for tren when older with greater liabilities. Bottom line, more is usually not better in the testosterone dept & drugs sold for equine and bovine use probably not the best for your human loved ones. Roid rage is not a myth, however is poorly understood, typically overblown and nearly impossible to articulate to masses.

[Honkey_Kong]

I'm not going to say there is no such thing as "roid rage," but I honestly don't believe I've ever experienced it. Have I been in bad moods while on gear? Of course. But I've also been in very foul moods when I wasn't on anything too. I've heard some pretty crazy stories about other people on gear and I do think a lot of it was embellishments.

I'd say though some people have mood issues and gear makes it that much worse. It's just like some people can drink alcohol and be fun and jolly, whereas some people have a few drinks and suddenly get angry, violent and sad. I'd probably guess there are other issues that are being ignored and the gear is just like gasoline on a fire for them.

[Octaneinjected]

I'm not going to say there is no such thing as "roid rage," but I honestly don't believe I've ever experienced it. Have I been in bad moods while on gear? Of course. But I've also been in very foul moods when I wasn't on anything too. I've heard some pretty crazy stories about other people on gear and I do think a lot of it was embellishments.

I'd say though some people have mood issues and gear makes it that much worse. It's just like some people can drink alcohol and be fun and jolly, whereas some people have a few drinks and suddenly get angry, violent and sad. I'd probably guess there are other issues that are being ignored and the gear is just like gasoline on a fire for them.

This is a very good way to bring some logic into the situation. I myself, when I drink, can be a very harsh person to deal with, with no filter whatsoever. Yet if I stay sober and take my test. In all honestly it just improves my happiness and almost defuses my "mood disorders" as if they never existed to begin with.

I'll admit as a teenager and young adult I did have to deal with some personal dark matters that unfortunately exploded at the worst part of my life. But I can confidently say that gear had nothing to do with it. In fact, the times I was at my most dark, I wasn't on anything and probably picking up the booze a little to often. So there's that.

I'm just tired of the above mentioned stigma. If I choose to use gear and like most; one day it's just going to be painfully obvious that I'm taking something... It's my god damn choice. It's typically when you do something truly stupid or your shit gets stolen from you that shit hits the fan hard.

With that said. What attracts me the most is the recovery time. It allows me to go back into the gym and do the one thing I know has always worked in life to stabilize my mentality. "The weights don't talk back". With that said I'll end again as mentioned above. This is a life style choice, women don't think it's necessary to be naturally attractive. It's just... My own god damn personal choice. I'm sure many feel the same way here.

[Honkey_Kong]

This is a very good way to bring some logic into the situation. I myself, when I drink, can be a very harsh person to deal with, with no filter whatsoever. Yet if I stay sober and take my test. In all honestly it just improves my happiness and almost defuses my "mood disorders" as if they never existed to begin with.

I'll admit as a teenager and young adult I did have to deal with some personal dark matters that unfortunately exploded at the worst part of my life. But I can confidently say that gear had nothing to do with it. In fact, the times I was at my most dark, I wasn't on anything and probably picking up the booze a little to often. So there's that.

I'm just tired of the above mentioned stigma. If I choose to use gear and like most; one day it's just going to be painfully obvious that I'm taking something... It's my god damn choice. It's typically when you do something truly stupid or your shit gets stolen from you that shit hits the fan hard.

With that said. What attracts me the most is the recovery time. It allows me to go back into the gym and do the one thing I know has always worked in life to stabilize my mentality. "The weights don't talk back". With that said I'll end again as mentioned above. This is a life style choice, women don't think it's necessary to be naturally attractive. It's just... My own god damn personal choice. I'm sure many feel the same way here.

The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you’re a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go.

But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.

-Henry Rollins

[Test Monsterone]

I can be irritable at times without anything, but certain steroids and quantities will make me more irritable than I would already be in the same situation.

[teedoff]

I was always the happy drunk. I'd also do just about anything I wouldn't normally do when I was drunk. Like make out with strange girls while their bf's watched or piss on a pepsi machine in front of the door at a winn dixie grocery store. lol

Haven't done enough gear to know if I would get irritable on anything though. I don't agree with the comment about marijuana not being harmful though. It kills brain cells and alters moods and other physiological aspects, but that's not the point of this post. Like anything, I guess its all about excess.

[Octaneinjected]

The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you’re a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go.

But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.

-Henry Rollins

It comes across kind of silly but it works. It isn't a reflection of who you are as a total human being. Much like enjoying heavy metal doesn't mean your an A social freak. I had a philosophy professor make fun of heavy metal in front of class. Saying "these people must imagine marching into war, brutality and blood!!!" He was dead serious. On the inside I was like. "Bro this guy is a philosophy professor how ironic to make such a dumb ass statement". The weights are therapy. Not an alpha male complex.

Back to the subject. I can happily say that I do not let AAS and testosterone rent space in my head. Even as a young teen; Was lucky to be caked in fast twitch muscle and eventually fast recovery and abnormally strong legs. Even when I had it as a teenager if anything I was a push over and a softy which I thoroughly regret. I only bring it up as an example. I don't let hormones rent space in my head. Period. And I'm happy I can admit that.

[wellshii]

My roid rage was worse before the gear.

[Honkey_Kong]

It comes across kind of silly but it works. It isn't a reflection of who you are as a total human being. Much like enjoying heavy metal doesn't mean your an A social freak. I had a philosophy professor make fun of heavy metal in front of class. Saying "these people must imagine marching into war, brutality and blood!!!" He was dead serious. On the inside I was like. "Bro this guy is a philosophy professor how ironic to make such a dumb ass statement". The weights are therapy. Not an alpha male complex.

Back to the subject. I can happily say that I do not let AAS and testosterone rent space in my head. Even as a young teen; Was lucky to be caked in fast twitch muscle and eventually fast recovery and abnormally strong legs. Even when I had it as a teenager if anything I was a push over and a softy which I thoroughly regret. I only bring it up as an example. I don't let hormones rent space in my head. Period. And I'm happy I can admit that.

Well steroids aren't going to make you Johnny Alpha. It's one of those myths there. I'm not going to say a mellow person will be a mellow person on gear, but things definitely get blown out of proportion. Part of it is stories people tell of "somebody that knows somebody they know." And embellishments are picked up as the stories travel. Most of the shit comes back to some After-School Special from the 1980s (probably the one Ben Afleck was in). And of course the internet is full of fake stories. Derek from More Plates More Dates reads them all the time. But those are for the most part the imagination of the guy writing them.

Truth is up until recently most guys would never tell another soul they were on any gear at all. So you end up with people who don't know if somebody is on or isn't on guessing they're "roid raging" because they're acting intense and they happen to be bigger than the person witnessing that. I'll be willing to bet $6 million that a lot of those guys just happened to be big or were taking pre-workout or just protein and the story picked up legs from there.

[Euroholic]

I seem to have less patience for slow drivers or people that walk slow at the shops and block the isle.

[Cuz]

To me “rage” is an all out chaotic complete self control loss.

Ive never experienced this tho of course if someone was to do harm to me or especially my family im sure this would occur.

I dont believe there is a roid rage however hormone imbalances can cause some severe mood swings we see this with women. Also anytime excess androgens and testosterone is introduced aggression increases this is science but I believe the snowflaky people have beat this way out of proportion and exaggerated this to a much more higher extent than what we see if this roid rage actually existed I do believe most roid users would be criminals.

Its just another term invented by the anti masculinity crowd. I have no respect for them. Vikings some known as “berserkers” were warriors that definitely had a total loss of emotion/feeling now that is a pure rage used in battle.

I mean not to turn this into a political term but thats just what it is. Why do you think testosterone is a controlled substance in the US? Ridiculous.

[Brett N]

I have always tended to run a little "hot" my whole life. I let things out as they happen, and I don't like to hold back emotions when I feel irritated or frustrated with others. I just tend to let itout, sometimes very bluntly.

i wouldn't call it rage because I'm not like the Kool-Aid guy busting through walls and stuff but when I have cycled I have definitely noticed a step up in irritability and anger. So has my wife. Knowing this, I tend to take more time with responses in everyday life.

I do believe that the bullshit term "alpha male" guy does have the tendency to become more "alpha male" like when he is drinking, juicing or whatever makes him lack control.

To call it roid rage is annoying though. it's just guy that doesn't know how to keep his emotions in check.

[Cornish]

"Obviously Tren would make even the most calm person into a complete asshole..."

Ya, I underestimated tf outta its availability to make me an asshole.

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[Honkey_Kong]

"Obviously Tren would make even the most calm person into a complete asshole..."

Ya, I underestimated tf outta its availability to make me an asshole.

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Is it really the hormone making you an asshole? Or was it the fact that you probably had trouble getting a good night of rest that made you a little cranky?

[Test Monsterone]

Is it really the hormone making you an asshole? Or was it the fact that you probably had trouble getting a good night of rest that made you a little cranky?

Well, either way, it’s still the hormone. I figure that the more something messes with your homeostasis, the worse you’ll feel physically and mentally.

[Honkey_Kong]

Well, either way, it’s still the hormone. I figure that the more something messes with your homeostasis, the worse you’ll feel physically and mentally.

I wouldn't feel that bad on it, if I took enough Benedryl to KO me for a good 5 or 6 hours. Without that though. I'd be the walking dead.

[TheDRG]

I am calmer, more peaceful and nicer when on all gear except tren. When on tren, I am less patient, anger easily, and break shit apart at times.

[powerliftmike]

Well, the "roid rage" thing is complicated. Androgens cross the blood-brain barrier and can cause aggression. Typically this aggression is good if channeled into lifting. Some androgens, like tren or anadrol, can make the user feel unwell which can lead to a shorter temper; whilst others, like dianabol (as you experienced), generally result in improved mood. I have "blown up" on anadrol before and noticed a much shorter temper. The younger the user, the more likely these issues arise.

You will also have the issue that a baseline-state asshole becomes "empowered" with AAS because his strength and bodyweight increase and is more confident in being aggressive towards others. I have seen this in others.