Short heavy cyles explained- PB theory

[Maldorf]

kool bro i definitely hear what ur saying but i just dont wanna lose any muslce, so that was the reason for the cycle.

[/QUOTE=vitor]-IIOCKYll-Personally, If possible I would rather use GH rather than AAS for losing BF most of the time. It will keep you anti-catabolic and help with fat-burning to...

Short-burst AAS cycles are perfect right after cutting b/c of the rebound effect, So look at the big picture and take advantage of that...

i didnt realize hgh kept u anti catabolic i have never run it before. at what iu ed should i run hgh if i were to take generic blue tops?[/QUOTE]

I started out at just 2 IU/day myself. Work your way up slowly, and 6IU/day is pretty good once your body is accustomed to it. If you take too much too soon youll get some bad sides and have to cut back on the dose. I went up too fast when I first started and got bad carpal tunnel and achy joints.

[vitor]

IIOCKYll-Personally, If possible I would rather use GH rather than AAS for losing BF most of the time. It will keep you anti-catabolic and help with fat-burning to...

Short-burst AAS cycles are perfect right after cutting b/c of the rebound effect, So look at the big picture and take advantage of that...

[goose]

Its strange that I went to a Yates camp with few mates,in a discrete manner I had a brief talk to him on PB,he confirmed that his most main ideology revolutionized BB at the time,early 90`s.You have to remeber back then they did not have the tools like we do today.Its so easy to find a study on the net.He had none of this and look what he achieved.He said he was a crazy guys on drugs,involved with gangsters,and even this story of him being thrown out the window.So him lying on things is not surprising,does not mean he his ideas are worthless,NO.Guy is a legend.

[goose]

Its strange that I went to a Yates camp with few mates,in a discrete manner I had a brief talk to him on PB,he confirmed that his most main ideology revolutionized at the time,early 90`s.You have to remeber back then they did not have the tools like we do today.Its so easy to find a study on the net.He had none of this and look what he achieved.He said he was a crazy guys on drugs,involved with gangsters,and even this story of him being thrown out the window.So him lying on things is not surprising,does not mean he his ideas are worthless,NO.Guy is a legend.

This is a picture I took of my mate with the legend.God what a gym,my hero.

[marcus300]

This is a picture I took of my mate with the legend.God what a gym,my hero.

You mate looks a big guy goose, thanks for posting

[vitor]

This is a picture I took of my mate with the legend.God what a gym,my hero.

Do you train at temple gym?
Thats where "Blood and Guts"( the video) was shooted right?

[goose]

Do you train at temple gym?
Thats where "Blood and Guts"( the video) was shooted right?

Temple gym is near marcus

Its a long way from me,I live near London

Thats right from the gym from blood and guts.

[marcus300]

Temple gym is near marcus

Its a long way from me,I live near London

Thats right from the gym from blood and guts.

You live in London??

erhhhhhh goose get up north

[notauser]

marcus300:

you said in your first post this isn't for newbies.. so i just wanted to confirm that first time users should stick with the standard test E 12-week cycle right?

[marcus300]

marcus300:

you said in your first post this isn't for newbies.. so i just wanted to confirm that first time users should stick with the standard test E 12-week cycle right?

Yes short burst cycles are not for newbies stick with the standard type of cycling and see how you react to the test. But short cycling can be used by newbies just mild dose's not heavy burst dose.

[notauser]

Yes short burst cycles are not for newbies stick with the standard type of cycling and see how you react to the test. But short cycling can be used by newbies just mild dose's not heavy burst dose.

thanks man. well, i rather stick to the standard recommendations (12 week cycles) then move on to your kind of cycling after i have some cycles under my belt..

[marcus300]

thanks man. well, i rather stick to the standard recommendations (12 week cycles) then move on to your kind of cycling after i have some cycles under my belt..

Very wise

[goose]

One of pauls cleints was Ian Harrison,people if marcus will let me I will try and burn it and put a link here of them together.Its so crazy and funny,paul is a cross between lunatic and Genius,a little like marcus,LOL.LOL)

[marcus300]

One of pauls cleints was Ian Harrison,people if marcus will let me I will try and burn it and put a link here of them together.Its so crazy and funny,paul is a cross between lunatic and Genius,a little like marcus,LOL.LOL)

Have you seen their video they both did? training/AAS/Diets totally mad.

lunatic??? I am offended

[goose]

Have you seen their video they both did? training/AAS/Diets totally mad.

lunatic??? I am offended

You know I love you

Thats the one Im talking about,lets post it and blow the minds of the people here.

[marcus300]

You know I love you

Thats the one Im talking about,lets post it and blow the minds of the people here.

You know they are not ready for him

[goose]

You know they are not ready for him

God if he was alive,what would he do to roberts

Your right not ready,not here.

[crazycrab]

Marcus is a Great member. Many thanks

[marcus300]

Marcus is a Great member. Many thanks

Thankyou

[Maldorf]

I have done about 3 burst cycles, and the first two worked great. The last one was rather lack luster and I think its because I wasnt taking off enough time in between the bursts. My body seemed to respond a little less with each burst so that by the 3rd one I didnt get a whole lot out of it. This is probably a matter of you figuring out how much time you will need, but for me 4 weeks wasnt long enough.

[john vega]

awesome thread marcus.

[goose]

I miss marcus....great guy.

[rock75]

Yeah Goose, what happened to Marcus? I've been on and off for some time and missed some chit

[Maldorf]

Yeah, Im sad to see he was banned. I always thought he was a good asset here. Seems like lots of the more knowledable people have been leaving or banned.

[RA]

Yeah, Im sad to see he was banned. I always thought he was a good asset here. Seems like lots of the more knowledable people have been leaving or banned.

Very knowledgeable. His input is missed on the board.

[lightwaytbaby]

it happens, great read none the less.

[Sage]

good info thread, need to come here more often

[GPS226]

marcus, I am very interested in this theory and may try it next year. Do u think u could PM me with an example cycle with dosages? or post it in the thread?

[eljugo16]

great read

[number twelve]

so would style this be recommended for a first cycle?

[Warrior]

so would style this be recommended for a first cycle?

No, but the idea around priming your body before hand can be practiced. Beginners should start off with modest doses (testosterone-only is best) and duration.

[eljugo16]

standard 12 weeks cycles are the best for first timers

[Warrior]

standard 12 weeks cycles are the best for first timers

I wouldn't call 12 weeks "standard" - that can easily be too long, and very suppressive depending on the drugs/doses used. Side effects can build up enough to throw off the benefit-to-risk ratio over long durations too. Prime for the cycle, then hit the gas and ride it hard - increased training intensity and calorie intake - then, when the gains subside, get off and recover the hypothalamus. IMO, a beginner really shouldn't ride it out more than 10 weeks. If you make big gains and then they suddenly sputter or stall at 8 weeks, or signs of overreaching become evident, get off then. Twelve weeks is a long time to stay on for a beginner...

[eljugo16]

Yea it all depends on the person. My first cycle was 500mgs of Test E for 12 weeks and it worked great for me. On the other hand my friend who also started with me stopped at 7 weeks because his sides really acted up. So yea it DEF depends on the person.

[bigracso]

where is ended marcus300?

I've read all the 10 pages of thread (I've invested 2 complete days) and I would plane a short burst cycle...

My last cycle have been 8 weeks of test prop 700mg per week

I would to do:

1-17 days test enant EOD 250mg
30-44 days clomid+nolvadex+hcg
45-75 day test prop ED but with how mg?

thanks

[marcus300]

where is ended marcus300?

I've read all the 10 pages of thread (I've invested 2 complete days) and I would plane a short burst cycle...

My last cycle have been 8 weeks of test prop 700mg per week

I would to do:

1-17 days test enant EOD 250mg
30-44 days clomid+nolvadex+hcg
45-75 day test prop ED but with how mg?

thanks

Ive no idea what you trying to say, explain in english please

[bigracso]

excuse me for the wrong english

I would to do a short cycle so planned:

I would inject me 250mg of test enant EOD for 17 days, that is 9 testoviron, after at the 30th day I would get clomid+nolva+hcg (bridge+PCT) for 15 days, after at the 45th day I repeat the cycle but with test prop ED ... I would to know How mg of test prop I would get?

obviously after this second cycle I'll do the complete PCT for 4 weeks.

You regard that my prec cycle I got 700mg of test prop for week.

Thanks

[marcus300]

I cant discuss burst dosages on the open forum because this board is driven by newbies and i dont want to advice burst dosages, dosages for burst cycles are designed of that persons cycle history, many people are different to what dose they will use, what is high to me may be low to you so its a well planned out cycle which is designed of your cycle history.

[bigracso]

I cant discuss burst dosages on the open forum because this board is driven by newbies and i dont want to advice burst dosages, dosages for burst cycles are designed of that persons cycle history, many people are different to what dose they will use, what is high to me may be low to you so its a well planned out cycle which is designed of your cycle history.

this is consistent with all your thread and I support you, but I believe that clarify all my cycle it could become a personal and not repeatable cycle.

So, excluding the doses, Do the rest of cycle is right?

[marcus300]

this is consistent with all your thread and I support you, but I believe that clarify all my cycle it could become a personal and not repeatable cycle.

So, excluding the doses, Do the rest of cycle is right?

Short burst cycling is ran for around 4-6 weeks depending on what is trying to be achieved, you would use fast acting compounds so they are clear at the end to start pct, or you can run long esters but they need to swap them over to fast acting 14 days before the end of the cycle, you can bridge to the next cycle with various means or you can run a pct, again depending on goals.

Also you need to prime the body before any knd of short burst cycling for at least 6-8 wks.