First Cycle

[Shocker24]

Im 6'1, 212lbs
Ive been training seriously for 3+yrs.
I take in 3500-4500cals/day. 250+grms protein and 300+grms of carbs/day
I feel i've reached a point where I need something extra
Im looking at
Test E at 300ml/week for 12wks
Arimidex 12wks
Nolva and Clomid 2 wks after last shot for 4 wks
Any and all helpful suggestions are welcome.

[mtlbiceps]

Personally I find the Test E a bit low for a first cycle. I would probably go at 400 - 500ml/wk. Glad you have the Nolva and Clomid on hand as well.


MTLBiceps

[Jawcep]

I would probably go at 400 - 500ml/wk.

Agreed... probs 500mg.

[Jawcep]

Sounds alright but I think the T dose is a little low (I'm assuming 300mg/wk?). Some of the other blokes should chime in soon to give their more experienced opinions. Do a search if the forum for "first cycle" while you wait. You should find a lot of useful information there.

[Tlee8769]

Here check out this http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php im on Test E 500ml per week end of my second week and have had great results. And for your PCT check this thread out for PCT http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-A-with-Swifto.... Swifto has some great info on it. Best of luck.

[Lemonada8]

Save the arimidex until you get sides. You can also run a low dose nolva to block the receptors. For pct you wait a week then Start. You might want toget some hcg in there to have during cycle(250ius 2xweek) and first 2 weeks of pct(2500iu/week *one shot ). Do u know doses? Clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
That's a pretty intensive pct you could run nolva and hcg by itself or even the nolva only is good for a first cycle test only cycle.
Good luck play safe

[Tlee8769]

Save the arimidex until you get sides. You can also run a low dose nolva to block the receptors. For pct you wait a week then Start. You might want toget some hcg in there to have during cycle(250ius 2xweek) and first 2 weeks of pct(2500iu/week *one shot ). Do u know doses? Clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
That's a pretty intensive pct you could run nolva and hcg by itself or even the nolva only is good for a first cycle test only cycle.
Good luck play safe

You think Nolva is best for a first cycle for test why is this? Wouldn't this as a PCT work better
Test Enan/Prop Cycle Lasting 6-14 Weeks
PCT
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED
wk 1-6 Tore 60mg/ED (120mg/ED first 14 days) OR Clomid 25mg/ED (50-100mg/ED first 7-14 days)
*HCG 250ius 2-3 times/wk (on cycle)
*Aromasin 10mg/EOD (on cycle)
From what i have researched this seems the way to go for a Test E cycle its from this article by swifto http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-A-with-Swifto.... Read up and best of luck

[songdog]

300mgs test is fine.Save the Adex in case you get sides.Good luck bro.

[Lemonada8]

I think for a first cycle of test only the best pct is nolva and hcg as I suggested it, swifto pct is rather aggressive imo and should be used with heavily suppressive cycles containing all 3 steroids types. Being that its a fresh hpta and ant. Pit a pct using a estrogen receptor blocker combined with hcg burst ( acts like LH) the hpta is likely to balance itself easier. Using clomid is necessary when using a 19nor on cycle due to its down regulation of the hormone synthesis but that's another issue
As for using tore, I haven't found much literature on it and its effectiveness, while its out there tamox (nolva) is still better

[Tlee8769]

Well im on test as my first cycle and i feel safe using hcg at 250iu twice a week with aromasin at 10mg eod and when my cycle is complete I add the Nolvadex for 5 weeks. It seems like the best PCT out there that i have read and when its a bit aggressive i would take over not aggressive enough. It states by him that that it best for a cycle even for just test and you want the best chance of recovery and to keep your gains. Read this thread also http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...teroid.com-%29. Whats your bf% cause that can increase your chance of Gyno related issues.

[Blade15]

Whats your bf%??