On-cycle experience

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so im just curious to how everyone feels when theyre mid cycle? now i realize a lot of this will depend on what compounds are being run and at what dosage as well as whether or not any negative sides are being experienced or dealt with. so as it pertains to this thread im just looking for a general overall description and then specific questions may arise down the road based on context.

my reasoning behind this is i have not ever run a cycle but am planning on it in the not-so-distant-future and i like to have as much info about stuff as i can get.

the 2 compounds i have currently are test cyp 250mg/mL and anavar so u guys who have run these 2 compounds can make specific reference to them but id also be interested in any and all others as well. tren being a biggie. i read about it being an advanced compound and the sides getting pretty tuff, but thats usually where it ends. IMO it seemd itd be informative if we went into a little bit more detail regarding these things plus the positives associated with being on cycle as well.

do u generally feel good?

do u feel better than when not on?

can u tell that ur on?

how are ur eating habits affected?

is sleep affected and if so how?

etc.. etc.. these are just some examples.

also even though it doesnt pertain to me specifically how do u feel during PCT?

for the TRT guys is there any noticeable transition back to TRT dosage??

yall have done it so yall know better than i do what to include..

now lets hear it! thx

[lovbyts]

I feel different every time. 1st time may have been the best with Test only. Since then most every cycle has been interrupted in some way or form and I typically get 6-8 weeks out of it but I still feel good when it starts kicking in.

Only issues I have had is the 1st time running 500mg test and having a lot of night sweats and then again the 1st time running tren with test night sweats. Since then it seems every time the sides are more and more mild or almost non existent but I am also learning what to use with it (tren) to control the sides.

No PCT due to HRT so cant help you there. I think I would continually feel good/better if I had not had so many set backs the last 2+ years. Between 2008 and 2010 I felt really good, better than I had in a LONG time.

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I feel different every time. 1st time may have been the best with Test only. Since then most every cycle has been interrupted in some way or form and I typically get 6-8 weeks out of it but I still feel good when it starts kicking in.

Only issues I have had is the 1st time running 500mg test and having a lot of night sweats and then again the 1st time running tren with test night sweats. Since then it seems every time the sides are more and more mild or almost non existent but I am also learning what to use with it (tren) to control the sides.

No PCT due to HRT so cant help you there. I think I would continually feel good/better if I had not had so many set backs the last 2+ years. Between 2008 and 2010 I felt really good, better than I had in a LONG time.

thx lovbyts

so ur cycles get interrupted as in u have to discontinue or your routine just gets messed uP?

interesting how the sides lessened the more cycles u had under ur belt..

im also on HRT so the transition was very smoothe??

[S&S_ShovelHead]

On tren I feel very dominant, not generally happy, very confrontational, weird sexual desires I never have when not on tren, sleep never really gets affected, basically looking to pick a fight all the time. It definitely screws with my head big time, but I kind of like what it does to me sometimes. Im really laid back person and can sometimes be a pushover, not at all when on tren.

On test I just feel a bit more dominant, happy, more confident. Doesn't mess with my head nearly as much.

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On tren I feel very dominant, not generally happy, very confrontational, weird sexual desires I never have when not on tren, sleep never really gets affected, basically looking to pick a fight all the time. It definitely screws with my head big time, but I kind of like what it does to me sometimes. Im really laid back person and can sometimes be a pushover, not at all when on tren.

On test I just feel a bit more dominant, happy, more confident. Doesn't mess with my head nearly as much.

LOL.. hmm.. i will have to give this some thought.. (tren) .. i can be an asshole and sometimes hot headed.. i also am usually a dominant person by nature..

yeh.. def will have to give that some thought.. itll be awhile if ever for the tren anyways..

[DOSA]

so im just curious to how everyone feels when theyre mid cycle? now i realize a lot of this will depend on what compounds are being run and at what dosage as well as whether or not any negative sides are being experienced or dealt with. so as it pertains to this thread im just looking for a general overall description and then specific questions may arise down the road based on context.

my reasoning behind this is i have not ever run a cycle but am planning on it in the not-so-distant-future and i like to have as much info about stuff as i can get.

the 2 compounds i have currently are test cyp 250mg/mL and anavar so u guys who have run these 2 compounds can make specific reference to them but id also be interested in any and all others as well. tren being a biggie. i read about it being an advanced compound and the sides getting pretty tuff, but thats usually where it ends. IMO it seemd itd be informative if we went into a little bit more detail regarding these things plus the positives associated with being on cycle as well.

do u generally feel good?

do u feel better than when not on?

can u tell that ur on?

how are ur eating habits affected?

is sleep affected and if so how?

etc.. etc.. these are just some examples.

also even though it doesnt pertain to me specifically how do u feel during PCT?

for the TRT guys is there any noticeable transition back to TRT dosage??

yall have done it so yall know better than i do what to include..

now lets hear it! thx

first off, you look great for not cycling.....great job.
during a basic test cycle i always feel great. you will def . notice how you feel when you eat bad as your body will respond almost imed.
i always can tell when im "on"
sleep is fine on test, when i run tren my sleep is a disaster. tren is not for everyone. as noted, it makes me edgy as hell, just ready to blow.
pct sucks, clomid makes me cry at every stupid thing. watching tv i cry during sad commercials....or used too, now im on trt.

your going to love the test man, again with your build your going to look incredible....

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first off, you look great for not cycling.....great job.
during a basic test cycle i always feel great. you will def . notice how you feel when you eat bad as your body will respond almost imed.
i always can tell when im "on"
sleep is fine on test, when i run tren my sleep is a disaster. tren is not for everyone. as noted, it makes me edgy as hell, just ready to blow.
pct sucks, clomid makes me cry at every stupid thing. watching tv i cry during sad commercials....or used too, now im on trt.

your going to love the test man, again with your build your going to look incredible....

haha thx dude

[JJ78]

I have done a few cycles.

Currently running 250 Test Cyp
400 Tren E a week split up into 2 injectons every 4 days

Only sides:

My ankles swelled up real bad 2 weeks ago. Took some Liquiddex and they went down. Shitty sleep for a few weeks now.
My joints f*ckin hurt all the time.

But look good and getting stronger every workout. My cardio has been slowing a bit, but I am still leaning out without it.

First couple of Test cycles I felt absolutely amazing.

I would like to metion that I have never done any PCT, and have never really had any problems at all.

And I only dose some AI when I feel like I need it. Had sensitve nips on 600 of test and took, some AI for about a week and it disappeared.

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I have done a few cycles.

Currently running 250 Test Cyp
400 Tren E a week split up into 2 injectons every 4 days

Only sides:

My ankles swelled up real bad 2 weeks ago. Took some Liquiddex and they went down. Shitty sleep for a few weeks now.
My joints f*ckin hurt all the time.

But look good and getting stronger every workout. My cardio has been slowing a bit, but I am still leaning out without it.

First couple of Test cycles I felt absolutely amazing.

I would like to metion that I have never done any PCT, and have never really had any problems at all.

And I only dose some AI when I feel like I need it. Had sensitve nips on 600 of test and took, some AI for about a week and it disappeared.

no pct? seems unwise.. have u had blood work to confirm ur GTG?? u plan on pct after this tren cycle?

[JJ78]

no pct? seems unwise.. have u had blood work to confirm ur GTG?? u plan on pct after this tren cycle?

I'll be completely honest with you. I have done some pretty reckless things in my life and my aas use I consider pretty tame.

My first experience was when I was 19. My brother gave me 8 amps of deca and 1 needle. Told me to stick it in my butt cheek once a week.

So I did, with the same needle every ****in time. At one point the tip was actually bent, and I still did it.
I actually got very strong and lean from these 8 weeks. I was working out consistently for about 8 months prior to this.
Then I went to a party and got jumped by about 10 - 15 people and broke 6 ribs, my jaw in 2 places and tore a buch of shit in both my legs. So needless to say, I did not keep any of my gains.

Did test a few times after that with no knowledge whatso ever. Just a pin here and a pin there.

First real cycle:
Then flash forward to '09 when I found this site. I read and read. Then ordered some test. Did a cycle of Test E pinning twice a week for 12 weeks. Ordered the proper PCT from arr. and atemted to do it for about 2 days.
Put on 25lbs of quality muscle and got stong as shit. I was benching 315 9 times. sitting at 220lbs
Tasted like complete shit and just stopped.
I was partying a lot here in vegas at the time and basically quite working out for about a year.

So again loss all my gains again.

Then a test equipose cycle 12 weeks which was severly underdosed, but still got good gains


I have never used HCG.

The cycle that I am on now:

Test cyo 250 a week
Tren E 400 a week
I have 3 vials of Tren E @ 200mgs/ml I will run it at 400 pw until it is gone
Will not do a pct, I will cruise on 250 test for a while.

I did go to a TRT clinc after my first real test cycle and had blood work done, knowing that my test levels would be low, and they were at 320. So went there for 6 weeks, but it was $25 per shot. So quit that.

I have never had libido issues and have never noticed any negative effects from this history.

I know I probably sound stupid to a lot of you, but I personally think a lot of stuff said on here is parroted bulls*it.
I am no expert, but I think a lot of guys here add too much to there cycles.

But needless to say, you will benifit greatly from a test cycle @ 500ml per week. You will feel amazing and you will get strong as shit.

Diet is extremely important, and you obviously and gained a ton of knowledge here, so you will be all good.

Sorry for the long post. Good luck.

[slfmade]

Nice post 405. I've been thinking about starting a thread similiar to this. I recently decided to start my first cycle May 1st. Gonna be running test prop and mast p though. Anyway, looking forward to see what other people post. I waiting for somebody to say we'll feel 20 yrs old again. I REALLY want to feel 20 again. LOL

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Nice post 405. I've been thinking about starting a thread similiar to this. I recently decided to start my first cycle May 1st. Gonna be running test prop and mast p though. Anyway, looking forward to see what other people post. I waiting for somebody to say we'll feel 20 yrs old again. I REALLY want to feel 20 again. LOL

hey buddy good to see u on here and there again! i wanna feel 20 again too!

[slfmade]

hey buddy good to see u on here and there again! i wanna feel 20 again too!

Yep. I guess I'm here to stay for the time being. Cutting right now so nothing special to report, but I'll start a log when I start this cycle. When are you thinking about running something? Is this gonna be a once or twice type of thing or a blast and cruise for you?

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Yep. I guess I'm here to stay for the time being. Cutting right now so nothing special to report, but I'll start a log when I start this cycle. When are you thinking about running something? Is this gonna be a once or twice type of thing or a blast and cruise for you?

thinking june-aug then i dunno depends on a lot of factors.. i have 175lbs LBM right now. id like to have 190lbs LBM (or so).. maybe 200.. a buddy of mine told me if i ran too many cycles id end up looking like a cartoon character! LOL.. i def dont want that..

[Sgt. Hartman]

I waiting for somebody to say we'll feel 20 yrs old again. I REALLY want to feel 20 again. LOL

Your sex drive will be stronger than when you were 20 lol.

My first test cycle was ridiculous, kind of like when you first discover what it's all about, but even worse. You get used to it after a while so enjoy that first cycle.

[slfmade]

Your sex drive will be stronger than when you were 20 lol.

My first test cycle was ridiculous, kind of like when you first discover what it's all about, but even worse. You get used to it after a while so enjoy that first cycle.

Browngirl said she can't wait. LOL

[Lunk1]

Your sex drive will be stronger than when you were 20 lol.

My first test cycle was ridiculous, kind of like when you first discover what it's all about, but even worse. You get used to it after a while so enjoy that first cycle.

I have noticed this as well...i wonder if the effects are diminished or just that I have become accustomed and can now excersise control over the effects

[DOSA]

HGH will make you feel 20 again....

[tiredofthepo]

Hgh does and will make you feel 20 again if it is real and most likely not from china but "some" of china's stuff is reall just not much. Takes time though don't expect a facelift look in a month, try 4-6 months minimum and the real good shit shouldnt be cheap 6-8gm's per 10iu x 10 or kit should run 4-6 hondo. Btw love the movie and the avatar "slfmade" "dont touch the ****in' merch' man!"

[Knockout_Power]

Absolutely no point going into the world of the 19s on your first shot... Really, what's the point? You don't even know that you won't be completely satisfied with Test only results. It's almost as if you are going into this knowing you need more without previous experience...

I will give you my first experience...

I was fighting @170lb and walking around near 180lbs (appr 12%). Had no problems maintaining these weights. Got a shoulder injury which kept me out of training for close to 2 months and when I started back up i was very weak. My coach wanted me to run a cycle to bring back the strength and some muscle in time for a fight in 13 weeks. Long story short, I started at around 177lb and by week 10 I was already 190 without putting on any fat at only 400/wk test. This was without eating with the intent to bulk.

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[QUOTE=Knockout_Power;6464868]

Absolutely no point going into the world of the 19s on your first shot... Really, what's the point? You don't even know that you won't be completely satisfied with Test only results. It's almost as if you are going into this knowing you need more without previous experience...

yeh i know this and dont plan to (never did plan to)

I will give you my first experience...

I was fighting @170lb and walking around near 180lbs (appr 12%). Had no problems maintaining these weights. Got a shoulder injury which kept me out of training for close to 2 months and when I started back up i was very weak. My coach wanted me to run a cycle to bring back the strength and some muscle in time for a fight in 13 weeks. Long story short, I started at around 177lb and by week 10 I was already 190 without putting on any fat at only 400/wk test. This was without eating with the intent to bulk.

13lbs in 10weeks with no fat gain and not trying to bulk.. pretty good. how did u do in the fight?

[Knockout_Power]

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yeh i know this and dont plan to (never did plan to)
13lbs in 10weeks with no fat gain and not trying to bulk.. pretty good. how did u do in the fight?

Canceled when the opponent got injured. I was offered a fight @ 185 when another competitor backed out due to illness 4 days out. Good thing too cause there was no way I was going to make the cut to 170, was still 178 and feeling really week 3 days out. Good thing I ended the fight inside of 2 minutes cause I would have gassed by 2nd round.

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Canceled when the opponent got injured. I was offered a fight @ 185 when another competitor backed out due to illness 4 days out. Good thing too cause there was no way I was going to make the cut to 170, was still 178 and feeling really week 3 days out. Good thing I ended the fight inside of 2 minutes cause I would have gassed by 2nd round.

LOL.. so u didnt have to make weigh-in cuz they offered it to u so close to the fight date? i guess u knocked him out huh? 1st round.. sounds like the cycle did u well! now where the heck is that guy who posted the thread about: "i thought sustanon made u be able to fight good!" LMFAO!!! yall remember that one??

[Knockout_Power]

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LOL.. so u didnt have to make weigh-in cuz they offered it to u so close to the fight date? i guess u knocked him out huh? 1st round.. sounds like the cycle did u well! now where the heck is that guy who posted the thread about: "i thought sustanon made u be able to fight good!" LMFAO!!! yall remember that one??

I came in 3 lbs under 185 and the other ****er was a mushy 186 (should have been fighting @ 170 if he had any dedication)... I dont know how many times Ive read that sust does something magical for fighters... dumbest shit I ever heard.... unless they use it wrong and with all the different esters they end up pinning not frequently enough and the hormonal imbalance causes mood swings and makes them more aggressive? Hows that? Reaching enough?

[austinite]

I used to get sluggish. But now I have a mandatory supplementation on cycles.

• Adrenal
• Rhodiola
• L-theanine

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I used to get sluggish. But now I have a mandatory supplementation on cycles.

• Adrenal
• Rhodiola
• L-theanine

do tell buddy.. as i know u have good cause.. these knock out the sluggishness? howd u figure this stuff out? also u have a bunch of other stuff (supps/vits)as well right?

what would make u sluggish? multiple compounds? could u narrow it down to one?

[austinite]

do tell buddy.. as i know u have good cause.. these knock out the sluggishness? howd u figure this stuff out? also u have a bunch of other stuff (supps/vits)as well right?

what would make u sluggish? multiple compounds? could u narrow it down to one?

Yes. Test alone never really bothered me. But Var, Dbol, drol, tren, deca all caused me to feel a little slower. react slower. I would even wake up and feel like I extremely fatigued.

This is what do daily on cycle:

Weeks	Compound	Dosage & Frequency
Entire cycle	B12 (IM)	1000 iu ED
Entire cycle	Rhodiola	250 mg ED
Entire cycle	DHEA	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	D3	5,000iu ED (except Wed/Sun = 50,000iu D2)
Entire cycle	Pregnenalone	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	Omega 3	3600 mg ED (must take with vit. E)
Entire cycle	Metformin HCL	500 mg ED
Entire cycle	Crestor	5 mg ED
Entire cycle	NAC	1200 mg ED
Entire cycle	Magnesium	500 mg ED (before bed is a must)
Entire cycle	Vitamin E	400 iu ED (Must take with Omega 3)
Entire cycle	Zinc	50 mg ED
Entire cycle	Vitamin C	3000 mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Arginine	5 grams pre workout
Entire cycle	L-Cystiene	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	L-Carnitine	2 grams ED
Entire cycle	L-Theanine	600mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Lysine	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	Calcium	500mg ED
Entire cycle	Cialis	5mg twice daily.

[slfmade]

Yes. Test alone never really bothered me. But Var, Dbol, drol, tren, deca all caused me to feel a little slower. react slower. I would even wake up and feel like I extremely fatigued.

This is what do daily on cycle:

Weeks	Compound	Dosage & Frequency
Entire cycle	B12 (IM)	1000 iu ED
Entire cycle	Rhodiola	250 mg ED
Entire cycle	DHEA	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	D3	5,000iu ED (except Wed/Sun = 50,000iu D2)
Entire cycle	Pregnenalone	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	Omega 3	3600 mg ED (must take with vit. E)
Entire cycle	Metformin HCL	500 mg ED
Entire cycle	Crestor	5 mg ED
Entire cycle	NAC	1200 mg ED
Entire cycle	Magnesium	500 mg ED (before bed is a must)
Entire cycle	Vitamin E	400 iu ED (Must take with Omega 3)
Entire cycle	Zinc	50 mg ED
Entire cycle	Vitamin C	3000 mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Arginine	5 grams pre workout
Entire cycle	L-Cystiene	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	L-Carnitine	2 grams ED
Entire cycle	L-Theanine	600mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Lysine	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	Calcium	500mg ED
Entire cycle	Cialis	5mg twice daily.

Good God!!! And what do you do with the other 2 hours of the day?

[austinite]

Good God!!! And what do you do with other 2 hours of the day?

takes less than 5 minutes bro.

[Tron3219]

Yes. Test alone never really bothered me. But Var, Dbol, drol, tren, deca all caused me to feel a little slower. react slower. I would even wake up and feel like I extremely fatigued.

This is what do daily on cycle:

Weeks	Compound	Dosage & Frequency
Entire cycle	B12 (IM)	1000 iu ED
Entire cycle	Rhodiola	250 mg ED
Entire cycle	DHEA	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	D3	5,000iu ED (except Wed/Sun = 50,000iu D2)
Entire cycle	Pregnenalone	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	Omega 3	3600 mg ED (must take with vit. E)
Entire cycle	Metformin HCL	500 mg ED
Entire cycle	Crestor	5 mg ED
Entire cycle	NAC	1200 mg ED
Entire cycle	Magnesium	500 mg ED (before bed is a must)
Entire cycle	Vitamin E	400 iu ED (Must take with Omega 3)
Entire cycle	Zinc	50 mg ED
Entire cycle	Vitamin C	3000 mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Arginine	5 grams pre workout
Entire cycle	L-Cystiene	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	L-Carnitine	2 grams ED
Entire cycle	L-Theanine	600mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Lysine	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	Calcium	500mg ED
Entire cycle	Cialis	5mg twice daily.

Via atomini carnitine blocks the effectiveness of t3 on adipose. Don't remember specifics. Just thought I'd pass it on.

-TroN-

[austinite]

Via atomini carnitine blocks the effectiveness of t3 on adipose. Don't remember specifics. Just thought I'd pass it on.

-TroN-

It's true, not enough to be concerned when supplementing both. ... and studies also show that thyroid hormone may increase carnitine synthesis.

[frank13]

Yes. Test alone never really bothered me. But Var, Dbol, drol, tren, deca all caused me to feel a little slower. react slower. I would even wake up and feel like I extremely fatigued.

This is what do daily on cycle:

Weeks	Compound	Dosage & Frequency
Entire cycle	B12 (IM)	1000 iu ED
Entire cycle	Rhodiola	250 mg ED
Entire cycle	DHEA	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	D3	5,000iu ED (except Wed/Sun = 50,000iu D2)
Entire cycle	Pregnenalone	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	Omega 3	3600 mg ED (must take with vit. E)
Entire cycle	Metformin HCL	500 mg ED
Entire cycle	Crestor	5 mg ED
Entire cycle	NAC	1200 mg ED
Entire cycle	Magnesium	500 mg ED (before bed is a must)
Entire cycle	Vitamin E	400 iu ED (Must take with Omega 3)
Entire cycle	Zinc	50 mg ED
Entire cycle	Vitamin C	3000 mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Arginine	5 grams pre workout
Entire cycle	L-Cystiene	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	L-Carnitine	2 grams ED
Entire cycle	L-Theanine	600mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Lysine	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	Calcium	500mg ED
Entire cycle	Cialis	5mg twice daily.

i almost do the same thing i save the Cialis tho cost to much

[FONZY007]

i almost do the same thing i save the Cialis tho cost to much

If u look around you can find it at a great price..

[austinite]

i almost do the same thing i save the Cialis tho cost to much

^ that's changed drastically.

http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...erbs-more.html

[tiredofthepo]

bro that's a TON of intra B-12 7,000mcg per week!! hope you weigh at least 250-260. just can be rough on your liver if running gear simult. it's your world though!

[Sgt. Hartman]

I used to get sluggish. But now I have a mandatory supplementation on cycles.

• Adrenal
• Rhodiola
• L-theanine

Did you feel that way on your first cycle though?

I know exactly what you're talking about but think its from not taking enough time off, running too much gear, or not keeping other sides from gear in check (estrogen, BP, etc).

[austinite]

Did you feel that way on your first cycle though?

I know exactly what you're talking about but think its from not taking enough time off, running too much gear, or not keeping other sides from gear in check (estrogen, BP, etc).

I honestly couldn't tell ya. That was well over a decade ago. I should also mention that my cortisol levels are unstable and I have a prescription. That helped with my mid-day crashes but even with that, I still get slugish. Most certainly you are correct about not taking time off/rest. unfortunately sometimes not by choice but supplementing certainly helps. BP however is always decent, thanks to Cialis and sometimes Indapamide.

[warmouth]

I can tell you 405, anavar would do magical stuff to you and your physique. My first go was 80mgs and it was amazing(and you are built WAY better than I).

I'm on TRT, which I think you are too, so I never really come off. But when I up my test to high doses, I feel amazing about 4 or so weeks in. I'd stay dosed high if I felt it could be done safely.

Test P is my favorite however. It literally starts in the first week for me.

Now as far as tren, I've not went that directon yet, and may never. I do want too however, so its probably just a matter of time. A low to moderate dose of deca would be good to try first. I'm on it and absolutely love it. Not a lot results wise, but I don't experience as much pain while doing pressing movements.

No matter what you choose, you'll do great with it. Test only is awesome, but for someone like you I wouldn't have a problem if you wanted to throw something extra in. You're obviously not new to this and are aware of your body. So I think anavar would be amazing for you and I'd really like to see the results it gave you.

Side effects are almost non existant for me on test. Anavar does have some for me, but my experience isn't typical. I had some insomnia and sweats. Nothing major, but it was due to the var. Calve pumps were intense as well.

Last thing.... if you do decide to use anavar, I'd personally say run it 80mgs or 100. I know you can get results lower, but I'd Just go with the typical dose many recommend. I've seen 60mgs do wonderful things, but there is a pretty big difference.

[Lunk1]

Wish I could help but I have no first hand knowledge of this type of stuff...good luck buddy

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Wish I could help but I have no first hand knowledge of this type of stuff...good luck buddy

LOL.. uh huh.. thats it? i figured something a lot more sarcastic from my buddy than that!

something like: just shut up and do it already!!! GEEZ!!! or something like that.. LMAO