Anavar

[Jay414]

Hey guys I'm thinking about getting anavar tabs to lose some fat and water weight all comments on anavar will help is it a good product ?

[bass]

you can achieve that without var! what are your stats?

[MadBeast15]

I wouldn't take Var just to lose some fat and water weight.. Too expensive just for that.. Get some clen, T3 and a diuretic and eat the shit outta some tilapia... Wont cost but pennies compared to what it would if u bought Var

[bass]

stats first before recommending anything.

[Jay414]

Hi guys sorry tuck so long to get back stats are weight 82.8 kg height 5ft 10 body mass index is 26.1 kg/m

[BG]

Moved to q+a for more replies

[Mr.BB]

Hey guys I'm thinking about getting anavar tabs to lose some fat and water weight all comments on anavar will help is it a good product ?

Which anavar are you talking about?

Anavar (oxandrolone) its not a product, its a drug, also one of the most faked.
Anavar will shutdown your natural testosterone production so need to be taken along side testosterone shots.

Its a very mild steroid for most, and ussually used for cutting. Being used for cutting does not mean it sheds fat. To lose fat you need diet and cardio, anavar just gives a little extra but you need to go sub 10%.

If you want to lose fat and water weight, go to the diet section, start a good cardio program and reduce sodium intake.

[Chicagotarsier]

Please post your reference for it shuts down natural production.

The Effect of Oxandrolone on the Endocrinologic, Inflammatory, and Hypermetabolic Responses During the Acute Phase Postburn

Scientific journal says you are wrong and the test is over 5-8 years continual use. It actually kicks up HPTA in those with bad injuries that cause metabolism feedback to shut down HPTA

SO please...your reference

Which anavar are you talking about?

Anavar (oxandrolone) its not a product, its a drug, also one of the most faked.
Anavar will shutdown your natural testosterone production so need to be taken along side testosterone shots.

Its a very mild steroid for most, and ussually used for cutting. Being used for cutting does not mean it sheds fat. To lose fat you need diet and cardio, anavar just gives a little extra but you need to go sub 10%.

If you want to lose fat and water weight, go to the diet section, start a good cardio program and reduce sodium intake.

[Mr.BB]

Please post your reference for it shuts down natural production.

The Effect of Oxandrolone on the Endocrinologic, Inflammatory, and Hypermetabolic Responses During the Acute Phase Postburn

Scientific journal says you are wrong and the test is over 5-8 years continual use. It actually kicks up HPTA in those with bad injuries that cause metabolism feedback to shut down HPTA

SO please...your reference

Here, its not very difficult to find info on oxandrolone being an fda approved drug:

Oxandrolone - FDA prescribing information, side effects and uses

Males

Prepubertal
Phallic enlargement and increased frequency or persistence of erections.

Postpubertal
Inhibition of testicular function, testicular atrophy and oligospermia, impotence, chronic priapism, epididymitis, and bladder irritability.

In Females

Clitoral enlargement, menstrual irregularities.

Why are you posting references for studies made in children???

[Chicagotarsier]

FDA Prescribing information is not a medical reviewed process...it is a licensing and patent process.

Also it speaks 0 to impacting HPTA as was the premise. HPTA is a function of an ENDO....the only mention here is of a Urinary Doctor functionality...not the same thing at all.

Here, its not very difficult to find info on oxandrolone being an fda approved drug:

Oxandrolone - FDA prescribing information, side effects and uses




Why are you posting references for studies made in children???

The previous link is from KelKel. It was used to say it impacted HPTA negatively...and it actually did the opposite of that.

Tylenol has many of the same warnings in its prescribing guidelines...including impotence bladder irritability and testicular function....so still looking for a MEDICAL source not the FDA which is basically a patent agency lackey.

Having researched this in depth I have still found 0 medical journal tests that position Anavar as a negative to HPTA.

[marcus300]

FDA Prescribing information is not a medical reviewed process...it is a licensing and patent process.

Also it speaks 0 to impacting HPTA as was the premise. HPTA is a function of an ENDO....the only mention here is of a Urinary Doctor functionality...not the same thing at all.



The previous link is from KelKel. It was used to say it impacted HPTA negatively...and it actually did the opposite of that.

Tylenol has many of the same warnings in its prescribing guidelines...including impotence bladder irritability and testicular function....so still looking for a MEDICAL source not the FDA which is basically a patent agency lackey.

Having researched this in depth I have still found 0 medical journal tests that position Anavar as a negative to HPTA.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...concerned.html

[Mr.BB]

FDA Prescribing information is not a medical reviewed process...it is a licensing and patent process.

Also it speaks 0 to impacting HPTA as was the premise. HPTA is a function of an ENDO....the only mention here is of a Urinary Doctor functionality...not the same thing at all.



The previous link is from KelKel. It was used to say it impacted HPTA negatively...and it actually did the opposite of that.

Tylenol has many of the same warnings in its prescribing guidelines...including impotence bladder irritability and testicular function....so still looking for a MEDICAL source not the FDA which is basically a patent agency lackey.

Having researched this in depth I have still found 0 medical journal tests that position Anavar as a negative to HPTA.

There are ZERO public medical reviews because it is an established FACT that ANAVAR is supressive.

Why would any medical researchers would go look into something that has been PROVED???

Have you read the link I sent you??? Let me quote:

Anabolic steroids suppress the gonadotropic functions of the pituitary and may exert a direct effect upon the testes.

^^^ THIS IS THE HPTA SUPRESSION IN CASE YOU DIDNT NOTICE

If you think anavar has been FDA approved and has not been extensively studied and reviewed then I rest my case.

Like Marcus said, carry on...

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Please post your reference for it shuts down natural production.

The Effect of Oxandrolone on the Endocrinologic, Inflammatory, and Hypermetabolic Responses During the Acute Phase Postburn

Scientific journal says you are wrong and the test is over 5-8 years continual use. It actually kicks up HPTA in those with bad injuries that cause metabolism feedback to shut down HPTA

SO please...your reference

Chicagotarsier,

The children were on anavar for 30 days... not 8 years. The study was conducted over 8 years.
The children were 8 years old suffering from at least 40% 3rd degree burns.
The children were on a very low dose of .1mg/Kg of bodyweight so probably around 2.25-4.5mg of anavar/day. (A 200lb man would be taking 9.07mg/day.)
And most importantly, if the anavar helped heal them it would make sense that their HPTA functioned better thus higher testosterone . However, that doesn't mean that anavar raises testosterone in a healthy adult.

This is the third time in the last couple of weeks or so that I have seen you misquote or misread a study.
Please be more careful when using studies in the future.

[Chicagotarsier]

Chicagotarsier,

The children were on anavar for 30 days... not 8 years. The study was conducted over 8 years.
The children were 8 years old suffering from at least 40% 3rd degree burns.
The children were on a very low dose of .1mg/Kg of bodyweight so probably around 2.25-4.5mg of anavar/day. (A 200lb man would be taking 9.07mg/day.)
And most importantly, if the anavar helped heal them it would make sense that their HPTA functioned better thus higher testosterone . However, that doesn't mean that anavar raises testosterone in a healthy adult.

This is the third time in the last couple of weeks or so that I have seen you misquote or misread a study.
Please be more careful when using studies in the future.

And you just proved my point. There is still NO MEDICAL JOURNAL test group study that says Anavar impacts HPTA negatively. This is and has been my point all along. It is what we are discussing because so many say it shuts HPTA down. I will happily accept a medical source that involves a test group to say it does this...quite an easy premise to prove. There is just no such test that exists.

And again I was the one that pointed out that KelKel posted it and said it positioned Anavar as HPTA negative...and the test says opposite of that. You agree it does because higher testosterone helps a defective HPTA. On a healthy person..which you can walk out and find a billion of and put a test study together...there is no such study. Even the FDA does not say it impacts HPTA and points to testicular sperm function as the point of impotentance...not HPTA.

SO again ..... on topic...proof it shuts down HPTA. I am willing to accept it but I find no medical proof of it.

Just hear a lot of parroting but no backing of it.

Not being a JackO but I do appreciate a proven point. If the FDA proves your point to your satisfaction then ok..It does not to my satisfaction.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

And you just proved my point. There is still NO MEDICAL JOURNAL test group study that says Anavar impacts HPTA negatively. This is and has been my point all along. It is what we are discussing because so many say it shuts HPTA down. I will happily accept a medical source that involves a test group to say it does this...quite an easy premise to prove. There is just no such test that exists.

And again I was the one that pointed out that KelKel posted it and said it positioned Anavar as HPTA negative...and the test says opposite of that. You agree it does because higher testosterone helps a defective HPTA. On a healthy person..which you can walk out and find a billion of and put a test study together...there is no such study. Even the FDA does not say it impacts HPTA and points to testicular sperm function as the point of impotentance...not HPTA.

SO again ..... on topic...proof it shuts down HPTA. I am willing to accept it but I find no medical proof of it.

Just hear a lot of parroting but no backing of it.

Not being a JackO but I do appreciate a proven point. If the FDA proves your point to your satisfaction then ok..It does not to my satisfaction.

OK...
try this...

read the link provided by Marcus 300... in it Atomini provides a case study
or read the link that Mr. BB provided and read the side effects of anavar
or read this link...Treatment with oxandrolone and the durability of effects in older men | Journal of Applied Physiology
it shows that anavar use of 20mg/day for 12 weeks negatively affected LH 12 weeks after the end of use.

Also, do you actually read the studies you provide?
Please answer why you think that they gave children anavar for 5-8 years straight.

I did not prove your point.
There are many studies that show that anavar suppresses test production.
Try google.

[Jay414]

Thanks for the replies guys yea mr bb Anavar (oxandrolone) oral I want to start a diet to I've posed on the the diet thread for some help on what to eat hopefully il get some good replies

[marcus300]

Redesign your diet and cardio for further bf loss, don't look at AAS for the answer just keep chipping away at your bf with diet and cardio imho and you will be in a far better place in months to come.

[Buster Brown]

Oral cycles are frowned upon without support of an injectable like tes. There are other options to try to loose weight but the first and foremost is to get the the most out of your diet and increase your cardio. Alot of people dismiss this this and feel there diet is sufficient. Everyones diet can always be a little tighter. The more you lose naturally the better your cycle will be when you are ready for it.