VIT C is a miracle!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Latinbrothie** · 12-22-2005, 07:00 PM

I am on clen right now. Should i take a break from clen and megadose vitamin c or continue clen with vit c? I will be megadosing vit c, clen, diet-tech (ephedra free). Is this all good and safe?

**Kale** · 12-22-2005, 07:03 PM

Johan I am about three days into a realy bad cold. I bought a shitload of Sodium Ascorbate a few weeks ago but I havnt used it yet, What dose should I take to kill this muthafuka inside me

**Latinbrothie** · 12-22-2005, 07:04 PM

Oh yeah - I got my vit C today from Vitamin world. It is powder form vit C crystals. Ran me 22 bucks and the second was half off. 5000mg per teaspon - 173 servings. Cheap as hell. The tabs are going to be way too expensive, they are generally 500 mg for around the same price for only 500 tabs. plus thats chewing a whole shi7load of tabs a day

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-23-2005, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by Latinbrothie

I am on clen right now. Should i take a break from clen and megadose vitamin c or continue clen with vit c? I will be megadosing vit c, clen, diet-tech (ephedra free). Is this all good and safe?

Yeah its all safe. I dont se any reason to stop with clen. vit c is not in anyway a clen replacer!!!! It doesnt work in any similar way. It doesnt burn fat in the way clen does either.
it does however aid in fatloss, it realy did for me and it is a very strong insulin sensitivity booster. So it will work nice togheter with other stuff.

Originally Posted by Kale

Johan I am about three days into a realy bad cold. I bought a shitload of Sodium Ascorbate a few weeks ago but I havnt used it yet, What dose should I take to kill this muthafuka inside me

Chug down 10 grams. then take 5 grams every half hour until you get dihareea and disturbed stomach(might get stomach pains). Back of then and then take more vitamin c. Maby 2-3 grams 1,5 hour after that. Keep on taking it unless you get more dihareea. Repete this tomorrow.

**Kale** · 12-23-2005, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by johan

Chug down 10 grams. then take 5 grams every half hour until you get dihareea and disturbed stomach(might get stomach pains). Back of then and then take more vitamin c. Maby 2-3 grams 1,5 hour after that. Keep on taking it unless you get more dihareea. Repete this tomorrow.

OK thanks I will start first thing in the morning, this sounds like fun, I just got over a dose of the shits yesterday

**Kale** · 12-23-2005, 09:38 PM

Well the dihareea kicked in after just 20 grams :-)

**chest6** · 12-26-2005, 12:16 AM

interesting thread..sorry bout the bump but i have only taken 1g today and Im gonna take another gram and see how I feel..oh im extremely sick by the way been throwing up all day and ive slept for 17 hours

**Kale** · 12-26-2005, 12:28 AM

OK well I dont know how but apart from a snotty nose I feel like a million bucks. I am doing about 15 grams a day now, seems like a lot but with Sodium Ascorbate its actually not a lot volume wise. I am just about to go and have my first workout for a week

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-26-2005, 04:28 AM

glad to hear it worked kale

**Kale** · 12-26-2005, 04:30 AM

Johan whats the recommendation from now on as far as normal everyday intake is concerned

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-26-2005, 04:33 AM

well I use 15 grams everyday. Keeps me away from beeing sic and makes my joints feel like a million bucks. I recomend 10-15 grams

**oldman** · 12-26-2005, 05:27 AM

Well I had to go back to a Capsule type VitC... that power was too gross.. I guess I was putting too much in per drink.. anyway I bought a Capsule type instead of a tablet so I think it released the stuff better because after about 7-8 grams yesterday I spent most of the day in the crapper. It may have been that my diet was off a little because of the silly family get together so I will be trying again today to try to get that magic dose and move forward everyday on it to see how things go.. This has taken me way to long to get going on.

Oldman

**Kale** · 12-26-2005, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by oldman

Well I had to go back to a Capsule type VitC... that power was too gross.. I guess I was putting too much in per drink.. anyway I bought a Capsule type instead of a tablet so I think it released the stuff better because after about 7-8 grams yesterday I spent most of the day in the crapper. It may have been that my diet was off a little because of the silly family get together so I will be trying again today to try to get that magic dose and move forward everyday on it to see how things go.. This has taken me way to long to get going on.

Oldman

Thats amazing, the powder I take is almost tasteless, a bit salty maybe, but 1 metric teaspoon equals 5 grams of Vitamin C. I just throw it in my protein shake and you cant taste a thing

**oldman** · 12-26-2005, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Thats amazing, the powder I take is almost tasteless, a bit salty maybe, but 1 metric teaspoon equals 5 grams of Vitamin C. I just throw it in my protein shake and you cant taste a thing

the different powders I tried made the shakes taste more like acid than anything. No biggue I will just stick with the pills I already take a bunch of others during the day so I will throw these in the mix.

**USMCSS** · 12-26-2005, 03:03 PM

I've been trying to megadose but having a hard time. I take about 6 grams in the AM and within one hour a back and forth to the shitter. Sorry to be graphic, but it's one of those pissing out of the ass type things. I have to hit the toilet at least every 30 minutes. What the hell is going wrong? No it is not because I'm not pounding enough water because I AM!! I don't want to up the dose to the full 10 grams get because I don't want to shit my intestines out.

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-26-2005, 05:04 PM

that is very wierd. I have never heard of any healthy person having a bowel tollerance below 15 grams. Hell I can down 15 grams in one sitting without a problem. I wonder what can cause that low tollerance. Have to try and look it up.

Try to split it up. Take 2 grams each hour instead.

**juicy_brucy** · 12-26-2005, 06:03 PM

Just found the MOTHER LOAD of almost expired 1000mg Vitamin C pills...
120 pills for $1.90. Asorbic Acid though... But I bought them all.
I just downed 8 grams, and will be downing 2 grams every half hour to kill this bug inside of me...
I expect this to work, cause I have done it before on less than half of the doseage...
Lets see what happens when I do it Johan style...
I'll keep you all posted.
I've been sick for 2 days now, (today is day 3).
I will be healthy tomorrow.
either way, i'll post my results.

**swingbatta** · 12-26-2005, 07:32 PM

I will begin taking vit C this week. I was just wondering if it will have any effect on the creatine I am currently taking.

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-27-2005, 05:17 AM

let us know juicy

swingbatta it will have no effect whatsoever. Maby increase creatine efficiency somewhat since it increases insulin sensitivity. So theoreticaly it could make absorbation of creatin slightely better in the same was a r-ala, vanadyl sulphate or glucophage does.

**Papi93** · 12-30-2005, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by johan

well I use 15 grams everyday. Keeps me away from beeing sic and makes my joints feel like a million bucks. I recomend 10-15 grams

Do you break your doses up or take all at once? I have been taking 8g ED. I take 2g at a time, throughout the day. It looks like I will need to put it up another 2-4g. Thanks Johan.

**Kale** · 12-30-2005, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Papi93

Do you break your doses up or take all at once? I have been taking 8g ED. I take 2g at a time, throughout the day. It looks like I will need to put it up another 2-4g. Thanks Johan.

I am doing 15g a day as well, I break mine up over three doses, I just thow it in a protien shake.

**Pro_built7** · 12-30-2005, 11:03 PM

so whats a good loading dosage? I've been taking 2000mg a day is that enough....?

**Kale** · 12-31-2005, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Pro_built7

so whats a good loading dosage? I've been taking 2000mg a day is that enough....?

Johan recommends 15g a day, thats what I am doing at the moment

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-31-2005, 05:13 AM

yeah 15 grams is good

Divide up as much as possible.

**Pro_built7** · 12-31-2005, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Johan recommends 15g a day, thats what I am doing at the moment

so I should be taking 13g more?

**juicy_brucy** · 12-31-2005, 12:38 PM

I feel 100% better...
I feel as if nothing had a chance with the Vitamin C at those doses.
Great advice Johan. Vitamin C is underrated as you said.
Thanks once again Johan.
BTW, it took no more than 48 hours to totally kill whatever bug was inside of me....

**Papi93** · 12-31-2005, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by johan

yeah 15 grams is good

Divide up as much as possible.

Thanks Johan. It looks like I'm going to have to bump it up 7g.

**wolfyEVH** · 12-31-2005, 09:18 PM

found some interesting things on vitamin c...

"I noticed that it was not entirely clear that the dramatic effects are always with ascorbic acid orally and sodium ascorbate intravenously. I have not been able to achieve the ascorbate effect with mineral ascorbates orally. Mineral ascorbates are fine forms of vitamin C but when you are really sick, the mitochondria are failing in their refueling of the free radical scavengers with electrons. The ascorbic acid carries 2 extra electrons per molecule where the mineral ascorbates seem to carry only one (plus per molecule the mineral ascorbates are heavier due to the mineral weighing more than the hydrogen the mineral replaces). So the mineral ascorbates are not potent enough to accomplish the ascorbate effect. There may be other reasons that we do not appreciate additionally. " - Robert Cathcart, MD.

also there is a difference in ascorbic acids.....

http://www.antiaging-systems.com/extract/vitaminc.htm

this article states that the l-ascorbic acid is the only beneficial form, and the d-ascorbic is just a waste.....so i go looking for bulk powder online and i see this site....

http://www.msm-msm.com/bulkaa.html

as you can see they sell it for 10bucks a pound, but look at the last sentence, "Please note that this item is not L-ascorbic acid"

**wolfyEVH** · 12-31-2005, 10:30 PM

High-dose ascorbic acid increases intercourse frequency and improves mood: a randomized controlled clinical trial.

Brody S.

Center for and the Psychosomatic and Psychobiological Research, University of Trier, Germany.

BACKGROUND: Ascorbic acid (AA) modulates catecholaminergic activity, decreases stress reactivity, approach anxiety and prolactin release, improves vascular function, and increases oxytocin release. These processes are relevant to sexual behavior and mood. METHODS: In this randomized double-blind, placebo-controlled 14 day trial of sustained-release AA (42 healthy young adults; 3000 mg/day Cetebe) and placebo (39 healthy young adults), subjects with partners recorded penile-vaginal intercourse (FSI), noncoital partner sex, and masturbation in daily diaries, and also completed the Beck Depression Inventory before and after the trial. RESULTS: The AA group reported greater FSI (but, as hypothesized, not other sexual behavior) frequency, an effect most prominent in subjects not cohabiting with their sexual partner, and in women. The AA but not placebo group also experienced a decrease in Beck Depression scores. CONCLUSIONS: AA appears to increase FSI, and the differential benefit to noncohabitants suggests that a central activation or disinhibition, rather than peripheral mechanism may be responsible.

**Kärnfysikern** · 01-01-2006, 05:25 AM

interesting about ascorbic acid beeing more effective when sic. Got to try that when I am sic next time. I dont think there is any worry about the d-aa I have never seen it sold anywhere here in sweden atleast. Odd that that page sells d-aa.

**Kärnfysikern** · 01-01-2006, 05:37 AM

this book might interest some. Its a book from 1976 about vitamin c written by by Irwin stone. It can be found entirely on this site.

http://vitamincfoundation.org/stone/

**Kärnfysikern** · 01-01-2006, 05:38 AM

this site sells good ascorbic acid

http://vitamincfoundation.org/mcart/

**Kärnfysikern** · 01-01-2006, 05:45 AM

this is a fairly large supplement store so they should have the right kind. I dont think d-aa can be sold as "vitamin c"

http://www.bronsonvitamins.com/app/s...tm?&item_id=50

**NeedPaintoGain** · 01-02-2006, 06:50 PM

Hey Johan, What do you think about chewable vitamin C's? Are they best to take with a meal or can they be taken at any time? I always took 3G's a day and I rarely if ever get sick, but I want to bump it up now.

**KingJames23** · 01-02-2006, 08:36 PM

I have been taking the vitamin c for like 2 days now and already feeling good, Great ADVICE!!

**BIGPHIL** · 01-03-2006, 03:21 AM

I only take one gram of vitamin c a day wat would i expect if i took another 3grams or so..

**Tkarrde** · 01-03-2006, 02:30 PM

This article may prove interesting:

http://www.avantlabs.com/magmain.php...430&issueID=35

**Tkarrde** · 01-03-2006, 02:30 PM

This article may prove interesting:

http://www.avantlabs.com/magmain.php...430&issueID=35

**Myka** · 01-03-2006, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Tkarrde

This article may prove interesting:

http://www.avantlabs.com/magmain.php...430&issueID=35

Good read...

Seems to go along with what johan has said...I would like to read more about the 100s of grams of Vit C taken through IV...Does anyone have that study available?...

**Kärnfysikern** · 01-04-2006, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by NeedPaintoGain

Hey Johan, What do you think about chewable vitamin C's? Are they best to take with a meal or can they be taken at any time? I always took 3G's a day and I rarely if ever get sick, but I want to bump it up now.

At any time is fine

But I much prefer powders since tabs has all kinds of fillers and stuff.

Originally Posted by BIGPHIL

I only take one gram of vitamin c a day wat would i expect if i took another 3grams or so..

There wouldnt be much noticable difference. I "notice" things only when I go above 10 grams.

Originally Posted by KingJames23

I have been taking the vitamin c for like 2 days now and already feeling good, Great ADVICE!!

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