thanks guys
it is so tough finding what really works well. i always want to kill myself at the gym (safely)! but like last week i couldn't because of soreness. i find that even if one body part is sore and you try to train a completely different one, your training still suffers. maybe its a mental thing. this doesn't happen on a cycle though, right?? i will soon be doing one and i am hoping i won't have to worry about soreness or overtraining during it. thanks again.
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