4 weeks out NPC Show

[RAM2500]

35 more days until the show. I've been told I need to drop about 15 lbs. I'm doing 3 miles a day 4 days a week and my diet is near perfect. A guy local here is helping with my poses, his name is Rusty Jeffers, its the best $50 an hour I've spent. I'm takin 80mg of Anavar and 100mg Winstrol Ed along with 375mg of Test E. I thought with this cycle good diet and plenty of cardio I would drop the 15lbs no problem. So far no luck. I'm entering the Masters (over 40), the Novice and the light heavy weight. Oh by the way I'm 43 and this is my first show. any advice! thanks

[SVTMuscle*]

You do look pretty good..especially since your old enough to be my dad ;-), but you have alot of shredding to do. I would bump the Test E up 500mg (375 is just random) but that is probaly why you feel like you arnt loosing the weight because of water and Test E isnt exactly a cutting agent.
And instead of jogging a specific distance, I would switch it up to doing 45 minutes of mild treadmill or eliptical 2x a day, in the AM and before bed, but of luck to you man!

[DSM4Life]

You want to drop weight and your taking test e ? Not a good choice. Been reading longer easters are good for bulking, shorters for cutting. Test e will also bloat you some i know it is right now with me.

[RAM2500]

Test E retains water, If anything I was thinking about not using any test, Rusty said to dis-continue any oil based gear

You do look pretty good..especially since your old enough to be my dad ;-), but you have alot of shredding to do. I would bump the Test E up 500mg (375 is just random) but that is probaly why you feel like you arnt loosing the weight because of water and Test E isnt exactly a cutting agent.
And instead of jogging a specific distance, I would switch it up to doing 45 minutes of mild treadmill or eliptical 2x a day, in the AM and before bed, but of luck to you man!

[DSM4Life]

Test E retains water, If anything I was thinking about not using any test, Rusty said to dis-continue any oil based gear

Test is normally always recommended no matter what the goal is but the most important choice is deciding what compound to use.

[MrMent1on]

Here is my recommendation. Switch the Test E to Test Prop. Cardio first thing in the morning on an empyt stomach 45 minutes to a hour. also cardio the last thing before bed with a 0 carb shake after like isopure. If your carbs are high then drop it to about 150 grams daily. if you still need to drop a lot with 2 weeks to go then drop the carbs down to only 50 grams thats 1 cup oat meal immediately after your morning cardio and thats your only carb for the day. hope that help.

[scriptfactory]

Here is my recommendation. Switch the Test E to Test Prop. Cardio first thing in the morning on an empyt stomach 45 minutes to a hour. also cardio the last thing before bed with a 0 carb shake after like isopure. If your carbs are high then drop it to about 150 grams daily. if you still need to drop a lot with 2 weeks to go then drop the carbs down to only 50 grams thats 1 cup oat meal immediately after your morning cardio and thats your only carb for the day. hope that help.

Good advice.

[SVTMuscle*]

Here is my recommendation. Switch the Test E to Test Prop. Cardio first thing in the morning on an empyt stomach 45 minutes to a hour. also cardio the last thing before bed with a 0 carb shake after like isopure. If your carbs are high then drop it to about 150 grams daily. if you still need to drop a lot with 2 weeks to go then drop the carbs down to only 50 grams thats 1 cup oat meal immediately after your morning cardio and thats your only carb for the day. hope that help.

thats funny i was gonna recommend him switching to Prop also, but I was waiting for you or Nark to come and do it. I figured I'd let you have the glory for that one

[RAM2500]

I've just recently stopped all test based on my coachs recomondation. Any advice on the anavar and winstrol?

[SVTMuscle*]

I've just recently stopped all test based on my coachs recomondation. Any advice on the anavar and winstrol?

please dont tell you stoped Test cold turkey in the middle of a cycle?

[RAM2500]

No doing just a small amont 375mg a week.

please dont tell you stoped Test cold turkey in the middle of a cycle?

[*Narkissos*]

please dont tell you stoped Test cold turkey in the middle of a cycle?

Why would it matter?

He's still running androgens.

Contest preps require dropping certain compounds at certain points... Read up on contest preps and you'll see that most manipulate compounds to the exclusion of aromatizing steroids at a certain point out. No test no cycle is bullshit.

[RAM2500]

Just want to start out by say thanks for the attention you gave my post. first thing you mentioned was 15lbs, I was told by the gal who makes the posing suits i should try and lose at least 10lbs and shoot for 15. She sees most of the people who enter the NPC show. Just her advice. Rusty said wait and he will make that determination tonight.

next thing you mentioned was Cardio, im doing 2 days aweek of jogging 3 miles and the other 2 days on the stair master. I usually average 150 flights and 3 miles in 30 minutes. My heart monitor says I burn roughly 400 cal. per session. The sessions are usually after work around 5:00PM on a semi empty stomach.

My stats are: 43 years old. I weigh about 197 and the last time I had my body fat checked it was 8% using calipers.
My diet is almost no fat, about 20grams max. The carbs are around 150.

That picture of me was right after I bought my first suit. I was NOT pumped or warmed up at all. These 2 pictures are a better indicator of what I look like.
Thank you again Narkissos.

Why would it matter?

He's still running androgens.

Contest preps require dropping certain compounds at certain points... Read up on contest preps and you'll see that most manipulate compounds to the exclusion of aromatizing steroids at a certain point out. No test no cycle is bullshit.

[MIKE_XXL]

Just want to start out by say thanks for the attention you gave my post. first thing you mentioned was 15lbs, I was told by the gal who makes the posing suits i should try and lose at least 10lbs and shoot for 15. She sees most of the people who enter the NPC show. Just her advice. Rusty said wait and he will make that determination tonight.

next thing you mentioned was Cardio, im doing 2 days aweek of jogging 3 miles and the other 2 days on the stair master. I usually average 150 flights and 3 miles in 30 minutes. My heart monitor says I burn roughly 400 cal. per session. The sessions are usually after work around 5:00PM on a semi empty stomach.

My stats are: 43 years old. I weigh about 197 and the last time I had my body fat checked it was 8% using calipers.
My diet is almost no fat, about 20grams max. The carbs are around 150.

That picture of me was right after I bought my first suit. I was NOT pumped or warmed up at all. These 2 pictures are a better indicator of what I look like.
Thank you again Narkissos.

SOrry Bro, but you need some fat in your diet...especcially EFA (essential Fatty Acids) such as ***** 3s which some from Flaxseed oil, fish oil etc...they are a must in a any precontest diet...XXL

[SVTMuscle*]

I would highly recommend like mr mention said, switch to Test Prop if you can.

[Carlos_E]

What does your diet look like? Are you doing high or low impact cardio?

[*Narkissos*]

35 more days until the show.

Welcome to the fold bro.

I've been told I need to drop about 15 lbs.

Why 15 specifically?
To make class weight?
To be 'in shape'?

I'm doing 3 miles a day 4 days a week

3 miles jogging? Walking?

How many minutes does 3 miles equate to? (we deal with tangible numbers during preps: grams; mcgs; inches; percentages; minutes etc.) And how is your cardio timed? Like are you doing a.m. empty stomach etc.?

and my diet is near perfect.

'near' isn't good enough.. whether this be your first show or your 40th.

Post it up with your weight and bodyfat percentage etc.

A guy local here is helping with my poses, his name is Rusty Jeffers, its the best $50 an hour I've spent.

Rusty is a cool guy... mustache and all

I'm takin 80mg of Anavar and 100mg Winstrol Ed along with 375mg of Test E.

Var and winstrol dosages are pretty ok in my opinion. The test-E i'd switch to prop and add an AI like aromasin.. Don't get me wrong tho.. i don't believe that prop is better for cutting (Guys here associate no bloat with 'good for cutting'.. which is total bullshit. Water isn't fat). Why'd i'd advise you switch is because it will make it easier in the latter weeks (i.e. the last week) of your prep when you're trying to shed subcutaneous water.. to actually shed it. Before the last week, water retention is no concern.

I thought with this cycle good diet and plenty of cardio I would drop the 15lbs no problem. So far no luck. I'm entering the Masters (over 40), the Novice and the light heavy weight. Oh by the way I'm 43 and this is my first show. any advice! thanks

You're just over a month out.. time to pull out the stops. I don't think you're 'fat' by any account. You look lean.. just a lil watery. I mean, i'm seeing vascularity in your quads.. and separation in your obliques.. so you can't be fat. Bump the cardio.. Graduate your diet from good to 'exact'. I don't believe in the whole no test no cycle mantra.. but personally i wouldn't have dropped it if i didn't 'have to', just switched esters and added an AI (like aromasin). And finally.. outside of your sessions with Rusty, you need to pose daily. Get your significant other or training partner to take you tru.. 15-30 minutes per day. In the first couple years of contest prep.. i did no cardio... only posing. Most think that posing only pushes out water. That it does.. but it also burns calories...and adds detail. Remember it is the static and prolonged contraction of nearly ever voluntary muscle group in the body.

Good luck
Narkissos

[PROTEINSHAKE]

you look great man...I would do as nark & mr ment & svt recommended first of all..2nd of all I would say its time to up that cardio being that you are 4 weeks out with a little bit left to lose..can you do an am session 45mins on empty stomach?? that would set you up nicely....look great man..lookin forward to more from you!!!

[MIKE_XXL]

ANy pre contest diet should have lower fat intake, to to maintain health, keep the metabolism ramp, you need your EFAs, so i am saying it because your diet is lacking in this VERY IMPORTANT element...my first diet for a show, i hit a plateu and did not loose any weight i added some EFAs and i lost 2lbs the following week...i think and i know most will agree with me here EFAs are a MUST...20-30gmof fat from EFAs is a good start...XXL

[Random]

EFAs are a MUST...20-30gmof fat from EFAs is a good start...XXL

XXL, thats completely correct, EFA;s really keep the fat burning along with all the other benefits listed, personally it helps my joints during the finals weeks when youre not carrying much water......