Very first time (test and dbol)

[ThisBigBastard]

Ha, nice man, atta boy and welcome to the darkside!

You'll get over the whole needle thingy, just give it a little time. And it can be tricky at first to hit your left glute, you'll pull through.... to think about... have you thought about trying shoulder shots? Personally these are my fav, easy to hit, and pain free in my books. Quads are easy to hit too. anyways, let us know how things are growing...

What did you decided on for your test dose??

frigssss

200mg 2x per week, so 400mg per week total. I'd like to try to keep the Dbol at 25mg a day, but idk.. I may up it a little. I did chest and tri's tonight and the pump on this stuff is ridiculous. It's hard to believe such a tiny little pink pill can have so much kick to it.
I've been thinking of trying to inject other areas, but I'm worried of hitting something I shouldn't hit if I do it in the shoulder or quad. Also, don't you end up having problems because of the soreness from the shot in those areas while working out?
Right now I only have 23g 1.5" needles on hand.. won't those be a little too big for quads or shoulder?

[frignugs]

200mg 2x per week, so 400mg per week total. I'd like to try to keep the Dbol at 25mg a day, but idk.. I may up it a little. I did chest and tri's tonight and the pump on this stuff is ridiculous. It's hard to believe such a tiny little pink pill can have so much kick to it.
I've been thinking of trying to inject other areas, but I'm worried of hitting something I shouldn't hit if I do it in the shoulder or quad. Also, don't you end up having problems because of the soreness from the shot in those areas while working out?
Right now I only have 23g 1.5" needles on hand.. won't those be a little too big for quads or shoulder?

Nice, those dosages should be great for your first cycle. I know man, hard to beleive eh? the pumps are pretty intense and the strength comes quick! Your getting me pumped for my next run just thinking about it! Just remember to be careful, dont overdue yourself in the gym, dont want any nasty injuries going down, muscles can grow quick and tendons and ligaments are much slower to catch up for support.

Honestly, all of my days ive poked myself (5 years), Ive never had 1 problem with shoulder shots, but thats just me...yes and 1.5 inches is too long, although you could go in a inch, then proceed. But a 1 inch 23g would be much easier.

On the other hand, quads are super easy to hit, but i have ran into a few problems. There seems to be quite a few nerves in that area and i can assure you its not fun when you hit one. But it doesnt happen too often.
1.5 23 guage needles are perfect for quads.

Just be make sure to check out injection techniques, like
s p o t i n j e c t i o n s. c o m, before your practice

Be sure to Eat Big, train big, drink tons of water and get good solid rest. Keep us updated man, your gonna be a tank

What are your goals?
What lifting routine you currently going with?
Oh and do u have and AI for your cycle and a good PCT lined up?

Holla back

Nugsy

[ThisBigBastard]

What are your goals?
What lifting routine you currently going with?
Oh and do u have and AI for your cycle and a good PCT lined up?

Holla back

Nugsy

Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it.
At this point my goal is to just get big and hopefully not add fat in the process and hopefully keep as much as possible after cycle. I'm not really looking to get ripped.. I'll be going more in that direction in the summer. For now I'd like to add some nice mass over the winter.
For PCT I have Nolva and Clomid on hand, but I don't have everything sorted out 100%. There seems to be mixed feeling out there as far as what to use for PCT..
Also with the shots, it's getting a little easier.. thank god.. haha
I just worry myself about infections and whatnot.. it's not really the pain that bothers me. The soreness is a little annoying, but it doesn't seem as bad this time around. It's more of a self-induced freak out type thing, you know?
Oh, and as far as lifting routine, I just stick to mostly the tried and true free weight exercises. I usually start around 12 reps then go down to 10,8,6, and sometimes lower.
My schedule is usually something like this:
day 1: shoulders
day 2: legs
day 3: back/bi's
day 4: chest/tri's

[frignugs]

Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it.
At this point my goal is to just get big and hopefully not add fat in the process and hopefully keep as much as possible after cycle. I'm not really looking to get ripped.. I'll be going more in that direction in the summer. For now I'd like to add some nice mass over the winter.
For PCT I have Nolva and Clomid on hand, but I don't have everything sorted out 100%. There seems to be mixed feeling out there as far as what to use for PCT..
Also with the shots, it's getting a little easier.. thank god.. haha
I just worry myself about infections and whatnot.. it's not really the pain that bothers me. The soreness is a little annoying, but it doesn't seem as bad this time around. It's more of a self-induced freak out type thing, you know?
Oh, and as far as lifting routine, I just stick to mostly the tried and true free weight exercises. I usually start around 12 reps then go down to 10,8,6, and sometimes lower.
My schedule is usually something like this:
day 1: shoulders
day 2: legs
day 3: back/bi's
day 4: chest/tri's

Hey man, looks like a good split...you doing 4 on 1 off, then back at er?? mine's very similar.

Its good your worried about infections...cant be to cautious. I know a few ppl who dont understand the risks and use shitty techniques..only gonna hurt them someday.

Test usually takes 3-4 weeks to kick in, i notice my sex drive kicks in first, but like someone else said...the dbols are hittin now, which is a much more powerful feeling then test. The test will take over after your done the dbol.

Like the goals man...get big!

If u need help with the your PCT, shoot me a PM lata

Nugs

[ThisBigBastard]

So I ended up with my first knot where I injected my glute the other day. Feels like a golf ball sized lump, but it's not raised up above the skin, it is more under the skin I guess.. it is not hot or itchy or anything, just kind of annoying feeling when I sit a certain way and end up putting pressure on it. Otherwise I wouldn't know it was there.
What causes this to happen? Is it pretty much unpredictable when it could happen?