Quote Originally Posted by Kokaine View Post
I just spent countless hours at the library when I wasn't seeing any results from my training..I guess you have to take my word
With your stats I wouldn't take your word for any body building or nutritional information, you have the same stats as my 16 year old son and he just started working out 6 months ago. You can look at AandF's avatar and see that he knows what he is talking about. You may not like his "juicer" look, but most guys on here don't like the stick-boy look, that's why we are here.