Please help me here!

[topnotch]

agreed w/ above...if you were to run winny, you wanna shoot it every day not eod...eod if pointless in my opinion...leaning out has more to do w/ diet than anything you can take...you can take a bulking cycle, and if you do the right diet, will still lean out...i'd run the test at around 500/week, and maybe throw some clen in there, but just do some diet and cardio more than anything...hit the diet section bro...sounds like you've got some real good size on you now...what's ur bf%? any idea? by the way, like the above said as well, i dont think you'll see the effects of winny much til you get into the lower digit bf

[frignugs]

i dont think you'll see the effects of winny much til you get into the lower digit bf

I completley agree with this. I have ran winny 4 times in the past and have not been very impressed, however last summer i ran it at a lower bf and enjoyed the results much more.

I think people get it stuck in thier head that winny helps reduce bf% alone, which is not the case. The people who have great results with it are usually the ones who are competing or are a very low %bf (wintrol compliment's a trim physique very well). Than, newbies will look at or hear these amazing results with these individuals from winstrol, and blindly ignore the dedication to other aspects of bodybuilding (well, this could be said for alot of steroids). Anyways, there are much better choices out there then winstrol.

Nuggy