Philidelphia to Boy Scouts: Renounce Ban on Gays, or No More Free Rent

[BgMc31]

a typical Logan response to a typical irrational Bg arguement..........

BTW, I should not have to support mentally ill people who wish to have sex changes with my tax dollars either. Tax dollars should not be used to help finance public high schools created for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning youths" (Harvey Milk High School). Yet I do not hear you bitching about that?
Hypocrisy:
1. an expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction
2. insincerity by virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not really have

-Logan13

I'm not bitching about that because it's a school not pushing anyone's agenda. This particular school doesn't disallow straight kids or any religion. It's just a school that is open to people of alternative lifestyles. Face the fact Logan, alternative lifestyles aren't going anywhere and they have been a part of society since the dawn of man. I'm not a hypocrite and name calling shows your continued lack of ability to have a enlightening debate and you're ability to use dictionary.com doesn't cover up your continued support of continued discrimination against those who don't agree with your particular brand of morality.

Again, you still haven't answered the question.

[thegodfather]

I'm not bitching about that because it's a school not pushing anyone's agenda. This particular school doesn't disallow straight kids or any religion. It's just a school that is open to people of alternative lifestyles. Face the fact Logan, alternative lifestyles aren't going anywhere and they have been a part of society since the dawn of man. I'm not a hypocrite and name calling shows your continued lack of ability to have a enlightening debate and you're ability to use dictionary.com doesn't cover up your continued support of continued discrimination against those who don't agree with your particular brand of morality.

Again, you still haven't answered the question.

They are certainly entitled to their alternative lifestyles. It does not change the fact that our tax dollars should not PAY for these people to live their "alternative lifestyles" all cozy and happy. If you are not in step with the norm in society, ok that is your choice, but do not ask me and every other tax payer to foot the bill because you are different and you want to feel better about it.

There is a public school system in place, and we pay for that with our tax dollars, if you do not feel comfortable there for ANY reason, be it the education being delivered, your 'lifestyle', then fine, you have every right to LEAVE and goto another school and PAY a tuition for that education. But do not, say that the system provided for you is not good enough, and then ask tax payers to shell out money again because what they provided for you to begin with was not good enough.


About the Boy Scouts issue. I feel that any private organization, has every right to discriminate against anyone for any type of reason that they deem important to them. They have that RIGHT, it is their organization, if they only want to employ people with blue hair, then cool they have that right. If they hate white people, and dont want to hire anyone white, they have that right. I think some people have it twisted and think that "Equal Opportunity Employment"(Which is reverse racism in the first place) protects them in private businesses. The truth is, only a handful of employment is covered under 'equal opportunity' employment, most of which are government jobs, or corporations where government money is involved.

So, while I agree with that Boy Scouts right to follow the doctrine they follow, I cannot agree with the taxpayers subsidizing the organization. I believe that it interferes with the fact that government organizations only sponsor companys which are equal opportunity employers, those that treat all people as "Equals", a fundamental ideal this country was founded on. So, I disagree with this on principal, but feel that the Boy Scouts are completely justified in their position.


Whoever attacked me for pointing out that being gay, and being a peadophile are completely different, is an idiot. It also consequently really had little to do with this entire topic.

[BgMc31]

They are certainly entitled to their alternative lifestyles. It does not change the fact that our tax dollars should not PAY for these people to live their "alternative lifestyles" all cozy and happy. If you are not in step with the norm in society, ok that is your choice, but do not ask me and every other tax payer to foot the bill because you are different and you want to feel better about it.

There is a public school system in place, and we pay for that with our tax dollars, if you do not feel comfortable there for ANY reason, be it the education being delivered, your 'lifestyle', then fine, you have every right to LEAVE and goto another school and PAY a tuition for that education. But do not, say that the system provided for you is not good enough, and then ask tax payers to shell out money again because what they provided for you to begin with was not good enough.

About the Boy Scouts issue. I feel that any private organization, has every right to discriminate against anyone for any type of reason that they deem important to them. They have that RIGHT, it is their organization, if they only want to employ people with blue hair, then cool they have that right. If they hate white people, and dont want to hire anyone white, they have that right. I think some people have it twisted and think that "Equal Opportunity Employment"(Which is reverse racism in the first place) protects them in private businesses. The truth is, only a handful of employment is covered under 'equal opportunity' employment, most of which are government jobs, or corporations where government money is involved.

So, while I agree with that Boy Scouts right to follow the doctrine they follow, I cannot agree with the taxpayers subsidizing the organization. I believe that it interferes with the fact that government organizations only sponsor companys which are equal opportunity employers, those that treat all people as "Equals", a fundamental ideal this country was founded on. So, I disagree with this on principal, but feel that the Boy Scouts are completely justified in their position.


Whoever attacked me for pointing out that being gay, and being a peadophile are completely different, is an idiot. It also consequently really had little to do with this entire topic.

We seem to agree with the Boy Scout issue. What I was referring to in the Alternative Lifestyle school was the fact that although they cater to those of that lifestyle, it's still open to everyone therefore entitling them to public funds. Whether I agree with their lifestyle choice doesn't mean a damned thing. The boy scouts openly discriminate against people, therefore they shouldn't be allowed to have access to the money (taxes) those people pay year in and year out.

I don't understand your comment about Equal Opportunity Employment being reverse discrimination, but that is a topic for another debate.

[Logan13]

We seem to agree with the Boy Scout issue. What I was referring to in the Alternative Lifestyle school was the fact that although they cater to those of that lifestyle, it's still open to everyone therefore entitling them to public funds. Whether I agree with their lifestyle choice doesn't mean a damned thing. The boy scouts openly discriminate against people, therefore they shouldn't be allowed to have access to the money (taxes) those people pay year in and year out.

I don't understand your comment about Equal Opportunity Employment being reverse discrimination, but that is a topic for another debate.

All public schools are open to anyone, no need to create some alternative universe school just for them. If these kids are that screwed up, get them the psychological help that they need.

[scriptfactory]

All public schools are open to anyone, no need to create some alternative universe school just for them. If these kids are that screwed up, get them the psychological help that they need.

I agree, Logan. We should just cure them of the "gay."

[DSM4Life]

Choose wisely neo:



Gay _______________________________________________str aight

[alphaman]

I agree with Red (taxpayers don't have to support them), BUT the question still stands:

Are there any fathers of teenage daughters here who would feel comfortable with a hetero male Girl Scout leader takng their daughter and many other young girls into the woods on a camping trip?

You heard ol DSm here talking about the young meat...

[Logan13]

I agree, Logan. We should just cure them of the "gay."

I was referring to the one's that want to change their anatomy, as this is a LBGT school. Had you read more thoroughly, you might have saved both of us the time of posting.....

[scriptfactory]

I was referring to the one's that want to change their anatomy, as this is a LBGT school. Had you read more thoroughly, you might have saved both of us the time of posting.....

Oh, sorry. Your post confused me. Maybe it was the part that complained about the school... and I quote:

I should not have to support mentally ill people who wish to have sex changes with my tax dollars either. Tax dollars should not be used to help finance public high schools created for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning youths" (Harvey Milk High School). Yet I do not hear you bitching about that?

...no need to create some alternative universe school just for them. If these kids are that screwed up, get them the psychological help that they need.

I thought "these kids" was referring to the students of Harvey Milk High School, not the "mentally ill" people that want to have sex changes... Oh' wait. You WERE talking about the students!

Maybe you should have saved us all some time and just wrote something like "GAYS BAD. GAY SCHOOL BAD. TAXPAYERS SHOULDN'T PAY. BOY SCOUTS NOT GAY. BOY SCOUTS GOOD. TAXPAYERS SHOULD SUPPORT."

[Z12]

All public schools are open to anyone, no need to create some alternative universe school just for them. If these kids are that screwed up, get them the psychological help that they need.

I'm not talking about that particular LGBT school, but I knew several kids who went to an "alternative" school where I grew up. If those kids had been forced into public schools, they would have dropped out. I think some of these alternative schools are life-savers for many kids we should be supportive of their existence. As to whether of not taxpayers should fund these schools, I dunno, I'll have to think about it....