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    7. They do not believe in hell. They do believe in the devil, Satan. Who was cast down from heaven and confined to the Earth. They believe that this happened in the first World War I. This is because the bible states that the devil would be cast down from heaven and the world would goto war when this happened, or something to that effect.

    8. They believe that 144,000 people from Earth will be selected to rule in the Heavens with Jehovah.

    9. They also believe that Jesus is Jehovahs only begotten son.

    10. They beleive in Armageddon. However, they believe that after Armageddon, the people who are selected by God, those who have lived their lives according to his law, will live in a paradise earth forever, without sickness, suffering, or death. They often referr to this as "The New System." As it will be a new system of things, where sickness and death do not exist, and that people will live eternally. This is because Adam and Eve were originally intended to live forever, and only became imperfect after eating the fruit from the tree.

    11. Also, in regards to them waking you up at 8am. They go door to door, which they call "Field Service." They do this because in the bible it says to spread Gods word and to try and save as many people as possible before Armageddon. They have different tiers of people who perform this field service. There are those who devote a certain amount of hours per week to it, usually 3-15. Those who devote 40-60 hours of their time to field service are known as 'Pioneers'.

    I mean really, their religion is based off a quite literal interpretation of the bible. Everything I have just stated can be cited by scripture. It's really hard for anyone to refute most of their beliefs, as they are all stated in black&white in the bible. Another interesting fact, is that people who are Jehovahs Witnesses also refer to it as "The Truth." And when they speak to one another if they were to ask about another person, they would say "Is that person in the truth?"(meaning a Jehovahs Witness). It's also noteworthy that none of their governing body of their Kingdom Halls ever make any kind of monetary profit from the donations. Any money takin in is for maitenance fo their building or other needs, never for anyones personal gains. No priests driving Mercedes-Benz like in the Catholic churh. Also, as far as their heirarchy within their Kingdom Halls. There are two types of people who hold positions. The first is the 'Ministerial Servant', they do a number of small tasks such as running the microphone system at the Kingdom Halls, carrying microphones to people when they are giving answers, etc, etc. The highest position in the Kingdom Halls are called "Elders." There are several of them, who are appointed by other Elders. They run all aspects of the Kingdom Halls, from finances, and etc. They also give advice to other members of the Kingdom Hall, and they make tuff decisions based on conduct of certain members.

    A Jehovahs Witness is not baptised at birth, they are baptised when they feel they are ready to live their lives in accordance with Gods word. They are asked a series of questions by the Elders before they are able to be baptised. After doing so they are a baptised member of the Kingdom Hall, and are able to participate in field service. If a person who is baptised commits some type of offense, such as using drugs, having sex before marriage, cheating on a spouse, or some other type of conduct which is unbecoming of a baptised person, they have a meeting with the Elders. If the Elders decide that the offense is bad enough, they are "DISFELLOWSHIPPED." If this occurs, the person is still free to attend meetings at the Kingdom Hall, however no one is allowed to talk to them, and sometimes even their own family members will disassociate themselves with the person, although they are allowed to talk to them. A person must show dilligence in attending meetings and after a period of 6mos-1year they may be 'reinstated.'


    Thats about all I can come up with off the top of my head, any other specific questions on their beliefs just ask...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
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    8. They believe that 144,000 people from Earth will be selected to rule in the Heavens with Jehovah.
    That is almost as stupid as the Muslim's 72 virgins in Heaven!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
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    7. They do not believe in hell. They do believe in the devil, Satan. Who was cast down from heaven and confined to the Earth. They believe that this happened in the first World War I. This is because the bible states that the devil would be cast down from heaven and the world would goto war when this happened, or something to that effect.

    8. They believe that 144,000 people from Earth will be selected to rule in the Heavens with Jehovah.

    9. They also believe that Jesus is Jehovahs only begotten son.

    10. They beleive in Armageddon. However, they believe that after Armageddon, the people who are selected by God, those who have lived their lives according to his law, will live in a paradise earth forever, without sickness, suffering, or death. They often referr to this as "The New System." As it will be a new system of things, where sickness and death do not exist, and that people will live eternally. This is because Adam and Eve were originally intended to live forever, and only became imperfect after eating the fruit from the tree.

    11. Also, in regards to them waking you up at 8am. They go door to door, which they call "Field Service." They do this because in the bible it says to spread Gods word and to try and save as many people as possible before Armageddon. They have different tiers of people who perform this field service. There are those who devote a certain amount of hours per week to it, usually 3-15. Those who devote 40-60 hours of their time to field service are known as 'Pioneers'.

    I mean really, their religion is based off a quite literal interpretation of the bible. Everything I have just stated can be cited by scripture. It's really hard for anyone to refute most of their beliefs, as they are all stated in black&white in the bible. Another interesting fact, is that people who are Jehovahs Witnesses also refer to it as "The Truth." And when they speak to one another if they were to ask about another person, they would say "Is that person in the truth?"(meaning a Jehovahs Witness). It's also noteworthy that none of their governing body of their Kingdom Halls ever make any kind of monetary profit from the donations. Any money takin in is for maitenance fo their building or other needs, never for anyones personal gains. No priests driving Mercedes-Benz like in the Catholic churh. Also, as far as their heirarchy within their Kingdom Halls. There are two types of people who hold positions. The first is the 'Ministerial Servant', they do a number of small tasks such as running the microphone system at the Kingdom Halls, carrying microphones to people when they are giving answers, etc, etc. The highest position in the Kingdom Halls are called "Elders." There are several of them, who are appointed by other Elders. They run all aspects of the Kingdom Halls, from finances, and etc. They also give advice to other members of the Kingdom Hall, and they make tuff decisions based on conduct of certain members.

    A Jehovahs Witness is not baptised at birth, they are baptised when they feel they are ready to live their lives in accordance with Gods word. They are asked a series of questions by the Elders before they are able to be baptised. After doing so they are a baptised member of the Kingdom Hall, and are able to participate in field service. If a person who is baptised commits some type of offense, such as using drugs, having sex before marriage, cheating on a spouse, or some other type of conduct which is unbecoming of a baptised person, they have a meeting with the Elders. If the Elders decide that the offense is bad enough, they are "DISFELLOWSHIPPED." If this occurs, the person is still free to attend meetings at the Kingdom Hall, however no one is allowed to talk to them, and sometimes even their own family members will disassociate themselves with the person, although they are allowed to talk to them. A person must show dilligence in attending meetings and after a period of 6mos-1year they may be 'reinstated.'


    Thats about all I can come up with off the top of my head, any other specific questions on their beliefs just ask...
    how do you know all this if you dont mind me asking,also as a religion what do you in your opinion think of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr newbreed View Post
    how do you know all this if you dont mind me asking,also as a religion what do you in your opinion think of it
    I know all of that because I was raised in it until about 13 years old. To be honest, the principle of the religion is very good. As far as the members of the church go they are all very very good people. One aspect I like about it is that if you do something wrong, then you're most likely kicked out, whereas with the Catholic religion all you have to do is sit in a box for 15 minutes and then you're redeemed. They are very strict about sticking to the ideals that they profess. Very good hearted and good intentioned people for the most part. As I stated earlier no one is in it for the money, and its all by donation only. All of their practices can be found in the bible which is a plus. The things I dislike about it are the views that you shouldn't associate with people outside of their religion. I believe theres good people everywhere, not just within a group of people with the same ideals.

    My personal feelings on religion. Well as many know I study science, and as such I look towards concrete observations for my knowledge. However, I believe that the more in depth I study science, the more you CANNOT deny that there is an innate design with all things, actually a genious and perfect design to be honest. So I believe the more one studies science the more one cannot refute the idea of a designer. What I do not subscribe to, is that that designer inspired the writing of a bible, 5,000 years into 600,000 years of human existence on Earth. I do not subscribe to the idea that that designer built humans with innate urges and desires, and wrote a series of rules in direct contradiction with those desires. I do not believe in organized religion, and I do not believe someone has to goto church every Sunday in order for God to know you love him. Living your life everyday the way you want to, should show "GOD" that you are appreciating what he/she has given you. Thats pretty much where I stand, I believe in a creator, but I dont nessecarily subscribe to any current theologies, or the fact that god even calls himself/herself God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
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    I mean really, their religion is based off a quite literal interpretation of the bible. Everything I have just stated can be cited by scripture. It's really hard for anyone to refute most of their beliefs, as they are all stated in black&white in the bible.
    You act as if the bible WASN'T in and of itself a collection of texts from different authors, or as if it it were all "handed down" in one piece. It was VOTED on by the nascent organization that would become the Catholic Church before breaking into ever smaller denominations.

    In hebrew, Yaweh is the name of God... have you ever asked God his name, or since God is a title, have you ever spoken to the creator of the universe (actually, universe[s]) to ask him what his name is? If a Jehovah's Witness comes to my door I will tell him that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster in Four Courses. If you question the existence, authority, or power of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, He will boil you in a pot of Marinara sauce for all eternity (but he loves you). Only by believing in the FSM can you reach Pasta Paradise where you can eat all the pasta you want and never get fat, oh and you get 72 Italian babes with perpetually renewed virginity (but only if you blow yourself up in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster while killing the LOW-CARB INFIDELS.) If you're kinda-in-between, He might send you to Pasta Purgatory, where you must swim in an ocean of rancid alfredo sauce until 'purified'. Then you can go to Paradise (minus the 72 Italian Babes) HOW COULD ALL OF THIS BE POSSIBLE YOU SAY.....HOW COULD PASTA EXIST BEFORE THE UNIVERSE...simple really...IT'S A MYSTERY!!!

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