Doc Sust Karin DD question

[Doc.Sust]

the phenom is an advanced shirt

and judging from your goals you posted, i would stick with a single ply

the lightest i can touch in my single ply katana is 415

the regular phenom isnt an advanced shirt, a monkey could use it, the super phenom is an advanced shirt, this is the one all the big boys of the sport are using, to be honest, the super phenom is easy to learn and use, it has a very forgiving groove, more friendly than any other shirt i have seen, i dont believe any shirt is to advanced to learn for anyone, as long as the sizing is right you can master any shirt, for those with less experience, use a bigger shirt, those with more experience can use a smaller shirt, but trust me there is a limit to how small of shirt one can use, too small can be a recipe for bombing in a meet

[hauss man]

the regular phenom isnt an advanced shirt, a monkey could use it, the super phenom is an advanced shirt, this is the one all the big boys of the sport are using, to be honest, the super phenom is easy to learn and use, it has a very forgiving groove, more friendly than any other shirt i have seen, i dont believe any shirt is to advanced to learn for anyone, as long as the sizing is right you can master any shirt, for those with less experience, use a bigger shirt, those with more experience can use a smaller shirt, but trust me there is a limit to how small of shirt one can use, too small can be a recipe for bombing in a meet

you think he can touch 310 in a phenom?

you may be right, i dont have any experience with phenoms, but from my experince he should start out with a single ply because 2 ply was a whole new world for me

[Denim165]

give me you chest measurment relaxed, if you can tel me that, i can tell you what, trust me, nobody know more about th sizing of titan shits than i do from my mistakes
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chest 41", around shoulders about 49". I believe you about the mistake thing, I see nothing wrong with learn from your mistakes, lol..but honestly, I respect your opinion more, as we both are built to deadlift. I've found the best information is to ask a person who has a structure like yours.

My goal of the 330@165 was based on using the same shirt I bought in 1994, just a new one. But as I know now, shirts have changed. I'm guessing I can count on an addition 10 or so pounds over the Frantz single ply I wore before.

thanks doc....Brian

[Doc.Sust]

give me you chest measurment relaxed, if you can tel me that, i can tell you what, trust me, nobody know more about th sizing of titan shits than i do from my mistakes
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chest 41", around shoulders about 49". I believe you about the mistake thing, I see nothing wrong with learn from your mistakes, lol..but honestly, I respect your opinion more, as we both are built to deadlift. I've found the best information is to ask a person who has a structure like yours.

My goal of the 330@165 was based on using the same shirt I bought in 1994, just a new one. But as I know now, shirts have changed. I'm guessing I can count on an addition 10 or so pounds over the Frantz single ply I wore before.

thanks doc....Brian

you will get MUCH more than just 10 lbs!

in the katana. single ply size 42 .if double ply size. if you get a double. do NOT get it grid stiched. it will be to much for you. if you get the shirt and you cant get in it because it feels to tight, i will help teach you how to break it in. if you decide to go with a phenom, i cant help you because inzers sizing chart is WAY off. best bet is to get a phenom made custom because the stock sizes are based off shoulder measurments and arent correct at all. they run the shirts to large

[Denim165]

you will get MUCH more than just 10 lbs!

in the katana. single ply size 42 .if double ply size. if you get a double. do NOT get it grid stiched. it will be to much for you. if you get the shirt and you cant get in it because it feels to tight, i will help teach you how to break it in. if you decide to go with a phenom, i cant help you because inzers sizing chart is WAY off. best bet is to get a phenom made custom because the stock sizes are based off shoulder measurments and arent correct at all. they run the shirts to large
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I plan to buy the single ply Katana. I did notice a couple federations banning 2-ply, and I want to compete in a few different organizations. I've read several good reviews on it. Maybe a 2 ply with grid down the road.

Its not too much, and at about $150'ish, I can afford to buy two a year...plus they are backed up by Titan for 12 months against blow out, 18 months against runs. I did spot this URL http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/5887 Person claimed to have a 225 raw bench, 259 with the old blast shirt, and 324 with the Katana! That is freaking crazy!!

[Doc.Sust]

you will get MUCH more than just 10 lbs!

in the katana. single ply size 42 .if double ply size. if you get a double. do NOT get it grid stiched. it will be to much for you. if you get the shirt and you cant get in it because it feels to tight, i will help teach you how to break it in. if you decide to go with a phenom, i cant help you because inzers sizing chart is WAY off. best bet is to get a phenom made custom because the stock sizes are based off shoulder measurments and arent correct at all. they run the shirts to large
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I plan to buy the single ply Katana. I did notice a couple federations banning 2-ply, and I want to compete in a few different organizations. I've read several good reviews on it. Maybe a 2 ply with grid down the road.

Its not too much, and at about $150'ish, I can afford to buy two a year...plus they are backed up by Titan for 12 months against blow out, 18 months against runs. I did spot this URL http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/5887 Person claimed to have a 225 raw bench, 259 with the old blast shirt, and 324 with the Katana! That is freaking crazy!!

ha you think that is good, my training arner can press about 500-550 raw and can press 900 with a shirt. some people get a huge carryover from the shirt, i get about 200lbs myself, my best raw press is 425, my best shirt press has been 600lbs

[Denim165]

Hey Doc....I've been draging my feet on ordering a Katana. I finally decided to go with the double. Just one thing, I notice they have a open back now....whats your thought on that? I know no grid stiched, but should I make any other custom requests? thanks, Brian

[Doc.Sust]

you think he can touch 310 in a phenom?

you may be right, i dont have any experience with phenoms, but from my experince he should start out with a single ply because 2 ply was a whole new world for me

absolutely. i used a duper phenom even and i was able to touch 315 and i can press around 600 these days, my friend who is a 900lb bencher can touch 495 in his super phenom. it is weird but you can touch easy in the shirt and still get a ton of pop off the chest through lockout. i went right from raw to double ply and i learned it. it wasnt something i got the first time. but i did it in afew wks.