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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada View Post
    That is where you are grievously misinformed. That is why Carlos probably posed the question.
    Really? Are you even going to attempt to defy the facts by arguing that the Middle East is not the most fukked up place on the planet? Do not turn your back on the facts by trying to be P.C. This culture is creating havoc all over the earth. To deny this is naive at best.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    Really? Are you even going to attempt to defy the facts by arguing that the Middle East is not the most fukked up place on the planet? Do not turn your back on the facts by trying to be P.C. This culture is creating havoc all over the earth. To deny this is naive at best.......
    Did I ever state anything substitutable to that? No. Im not going to be PC because I speak the way I see things. At the same time I am not naive nor ignorant to realize that Islam didnt commence on September 11 2001, like it did for most people in the US. It seems for the media that is the birth date of the religion. This culture is creating havoc all over the earth yet it seems prior to Sept 11 everything was much better, wonder why. It seems that we bombed and invaded two of their countries yet what brute creatures they are, we all expected them to be indifferent and remain pacified. Could it be that something triggered this reaction? To deny this fact is naive at best.

    Islam is a target of the media right now, they are under the microscope and anything that is "unwieldy" by western standards in publicized , albeit Islam has been around for what around 1400 years? If I pick and choose derogatory stories which involve Christians, Jews, Hindus and constantly force feed it to you, then I cant blame one for being ignorant unless of course he went out of his way to analyze the situation read sources outside the US, pose questions and seek answers. Then one would be the contrary of ignorant but rather conscious, educated and wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada View Post
    Did I ever state anything substitutable to that? No. Im not going to be PC because I speak the way I see things. At the same time I am not naive nor ignorant to realize that Islam didnt commence on September 11 2001, like it did for most people in the US. It seems for the media that is the birth date of the religion. This culture is creating havoc all over the earth yet it seems prior to Sept 11 everything was much better, wonder why. It seems that we bombed and invaded two of their countries yet what brute creatures they are, we all expected them to be indifferent and remain pacified. Could it be that something triggered this reaction? To deny this fact is naive at best.

    Islam is a target of the media right now, they are under the microscope and anything that is "unwieldy" by western standards in publicized , albeit Islam has been around for what around 1400 years? If I pick and choose derogatory stories which involve Christians, Jews, Hindus and constantly force feed it to you, then I cant blame one for being ignorant unless of course he went out of his way to analyze the situation read sources outside the US, pose questions and seek answers. Then one would be the contrary of ignorant but rather conscious, educated and wise.
    Nothing "triggered" middle easterners to be stuck in the 6th century. Barbarism is alive and well today. There is no need to pick and choose stories since there are so many examples of this. They, like all peoples, must be held accountable for what they do. Again, to deny the facts would be naive at best. Nothing, including the 2 full paragraphs of excuses from you, can change this.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    Nothing "triggered" middle easterners to be stuck in the 6th century. Barbarism is alive and well today. There is no need to pick and choose stories since there are so many examples of this. They, like all peoples, must be held accountable for what they do. Again, to deny the facts would be naive at best. Nothing, including the 2 full paragraphs of excuses from you, can change this.......
    You are misreading what is stated once again. Something "triggered" these extremist Muslims into reacting and doing what it is that they do. I paraphrase: "All human reaction is done due to a motive." Yes, extremism existed in Islam for quite some time but since 9/11 it is rather flamboyant. They being stuck in the 6th century, well one can argue might be for similar reasons that non-islamic states in Africa are "stuck in the 6th century".

    Agreed like all people, they should be held accountable for all their actions. No one should be immune from their actions.

    I dont deny the facts I just choose to look further then the end of my nose. To beat terrorism you do have to look into the root cause of it and eradicate it. Until then all it will be is a turnstile scenario, you kill and capture hundreds and a hundred more are born.

    Reread my "2 paragraphs", they are not excuses but rather explanations which you may or may not be aware of. Hence I would have to agree with you "Again, to deny the facts would be naive at best" but look at all the facts and diversify your sources.

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