anavar will it work

[Bossman]

You SHOULD certainly do cardio while cutting on Var. Even though it's a mild steroid, as are many others these hormones are DESIGNED to create a far greater anabolic effect than external factors can possibly counter. In other words you could literally run all day (24hrs) and still not approach catabolism while on genuine aas. Even if you barely ate you'd gain muscle on Var/gear as evidenced by intravenously fed burn & accident victims, because that's what gear does. We just amplify the effects with increased protein & calories, and the addition of intense muscle stimulus (heavy/regular lifting).

HUH!? That's not true at all. AAS helps prevent muscle loss, but you sure as hell will lose muscle if you overdue cardio when cutting. Anavar is a weak steroid and it will help maintain muscle when cutting but if your diet is not spot on and you overdue cardio, you will lose muscle. Shit, you can lose muscle on 1000 mg test a week if you dont have your diet right.

[magic32]

HUH!? That's not true at all.
SAYS WHO, YOU? THEN PROVIDE SOME PROOF.

AAS helps prevent muscle loss, but you sure as hell will lose muscle if you overdue cardio when cutting.
FALSE.
NOT "PREVENT", "PRODUCE", AS EVIDENCE IN MEDICAL SCIENCE.

Anavar is a weak steroid and it will help maintain muscle when cutting but if your diet is not spot on and you overdue cardio, you will lose muscle.
IT'S ONLY WEAK IN COMPARISON TO OTHERS, NOT COMPARED TO MERE EXTERNAL STIMULI SUCH AS CARDIO TRAINING!


you can lose muscle on 1000 mg test a week if you dont have your diet right.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT STUDY. CAN YOU PLEASE CITE IT?

Nope, not even an exaggeration, as long as significant protein is present you'll GAIN muscle on aas regardless of what would be considered minor at best external factors such as high cardio, no lifting, lack of excess calories etc.

Now if you're speaking of hindrance to gains in bb'er terms (optimal muscle building) in the absence of adjusted appropriate diet & lifting, or in the presence of excessive cardio then that's correct.

But that's not the topic. I said regardless of the amount, cardio’s catabolism is insubstantial during aas’ anabolism. This is clearly evidenced by the fact that even the weakest steroid will create a fantastic anabolic environment because these powerful hormones whose chemical signals (within the intact system) cannot be disobeyed. Numerous clinical studies have proven even LOWLY VAR’S anabolic ability to reverse the most powerful degenerative diseases often classified as ACUTE CATABOLIC INJURY (far more potent than any cardio training regimen you can generate). It BUILDS, not merely PRESERVES muscle (as you cited) in the aforementioned disease category, otherwise age deteriorating older men, as well as in the bodies of traumatically damaged children.

Of course you’re entitled to your express opinion, the right of open forum participation, but I’m not voicing mere opinions, but rather actual facts as exhibited below in just a few of the exhaustingly abundant examples from medical research. Oh, and none of them include exercise of any kind, nor do any use your “spot on diet”, yet they all not only negate or offset but completely reverse multiple extreme muscle deleterious conditions that far exceed any possible cardio exercising threats to muscle development resulting in MUSCLE BUILDING…

Severe degenerative disease tx:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum


Older men typically 60-87yrs old:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum


Severely burned children:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum

[Bossman]

You said if you barely ate, you would still gain muscle. Bullshit!! And, i f you overdue cardio and dont take in enough calories/protein to offset you will lose muscle on Anavar or any other AAS.

AAS is not a magic bullit. Ive witnessed numerous bodybuilders lose muscle on contest prep while stacking a whole host of AAS. If you dont get enough food while dieting on any AAS you will lose muscle. Telling people on this forum that they can diet and do cardio 24 hours a day and not lose muscle on anavar is ****ing ridiculous

Nope, not even an exaggeration, as long as significant protein is present you'll GAIN muscle on aas regardless of what would be considered minor at best external factors such as high cardio, no lifting, lack of excess calories etc.

Now if you're speaking of hindrance to gains in bb'er terms (optimal muscle building) in the absence of adjusted appropriate diet & lifting, or in the presence of excessive cardio then that's correct.

But that's not the topic. I said regardless of the amount, cardio’s catabolism is insubstantial during aas’ anabolism. This is clearly evidenced by the fact that even the weakest steroid will create a fantastic anabolic environment because these powerful hormones whose chemical signals (within the intact system) cannot be disobeyed. Numerous clinical studies have proven even LOWLY VAR’S anabolic ability to reverse the most powerful degenerative diseases often classified as ACUTE CATABOLIC INJURY (far more potent than any cardio training regimen you can generate). It BUILDS, not merely PRESERVES muscle (as you cited) in the aforementioned disease category, otherwise age deteriorating older men, as well as in the bodies of traumatically damaged children.

Of course you’re entitled to your express opinion, the right of open forum participation, but I’m not voicing mere opinions, but rather actual facts as exhibited below in just a few of the exhaustingly abundant examples from medical research. Oh, and none of them include exercise of any kind, nor do any use your “spot on diet”, yet they all not only negate or offset but completely reverse multiple extreme muscle deleterious conditions that far exceed any possible cardio exercising threats to muscle development resulting in MUSCLE BUILDING…

Severe degenerative disease tx:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum


Older men typically 60-87yrs old:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum


Severely burned children:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum

Older men typically 60-87yrs old:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum


Severely burned children:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum[/CENTER]

[dece870717]

HUH!? That's not true at all. AAS helps prevent muscle loss, but you sure as hell will lose muscle if you overdue cardio when cutting. Anavar is a weak steroid and it will help maintain muscle when cutting but if your diet is not spot on and you overdue cardio, you will lose muscle. Shit, you can lose muscle on 1000 mg test a week if you dont have your diet right.

I think I would have to agree with magic with his comment about preservation. I've run two cutting cycles and used Test and Tren. My maintenance calories are a little over 3,000 a day, I was eating 1,500 calories a day and doing 2 one hour sessions of cardio everyday which burned about 1000 calories total and did heavy weight lifting 5 days a week and still was able to gain strength and mass during the whole cycle. AAS are incredible drugs, I wouldn't doubt that some pros basically use some roids and then starve themselves and do a lot of cardio to lose a whole bunch of fat fast.

[5ifthCitizen]

HUH!? That's not true at all. AAS helps prevent muscle loss, but you sure as hell will lose muscle if you overdue cardio when cutting. Anavar is a weak steroid and it will help maintain muscle when cutting but if your diet is not spot on and you overdue cardio, you will lose muscle. Shit, you can lose muscle on 1000 mg test a week if you dont have your diet right.

there's no fvckin way bro. if i went on a gram of test/week and ate crackers i would gain weight and thats not just me (not suggesting this btw, just my 2 cents)

[Bossman]

You have no idea of what you're talking about. You aint gonna gain shit on 1000mg of test a week unless you train and eat right.

Magic suggested you could do cardio 24 hrs a day and still gain muscle on anavar. He has his head in his ass. He said you could barely eat and gain muscle. Not in the real world Bro! His cited studies do not perain to most people on this forum. How many of you are bed ridden, 70 years old or serverely burned???


Keep in mind Im talking about guys like you and me. Not a atrophied bed ridden burn victom. Look at all the studies he cited. How many of you are bed ridden, old or severely burned?

there's no fvckin way bro. if i went on a gram of test/week and ate crackers i would gain weight and thats not just me (not suggesting this btw, just my 2 cents)

[magic32]

You have no idea of what you're talking about.
He has his head in his ass.
YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE NICEST GUYS ON THE PLANET, WHICH WORKS WELL BECAUSE I AM TOO. THANKS FOR YOUR CANDOR.

He said you could barely eat and gain muscle.
AS LONG AS IT'S PROTEIN.

His cited studies do not perain to most people on this forum.
"HUMAN STUDIES" PERTAIN TO ALL HUMANS!

AAS is not a magic bullit. Ive witnessed numerous bodybuilders lose muscle on contest prep while stacking a whole host of AAS. If you dont get enough food while dieting on any AAS you will lose muscle.
OF COURSE AAS ARE MAGIC BULLETS, JUST NOT IN THE SINCE OF EXTREME HYPERTROPHY, THE STATE BB'ERS DESIRE. IF YOU TAKE AAS WITH SUBSTANTIAL PROTEIN, CHANGING NOTHING ELSE YOU'LL GAIN WEIGHT IN THE FORM OF LBM AS ILLUSTRATED IN A PLETHORA OF STUDIES. THIS IS THE VIRTUE OF STEROIDS, WHAT DO THINK THEY WERE DESIGNED FOR BB'ERS? I'M NOT SAYING YOU'LL GET BIG, BUT THEIR ANABOLISM WORKS LIKE MAGIC BULLETS, WE JUST CHANGE THE PLAYING FIELD TO AMPLIFY THE EFFECTS.

How many of you are bed ridden, 70 years old or serverely burned???
Keep in mind Im talking about guys like you and me. Not a atrophied bed ridden burn victom. Look at all the studies he cited. How many of you are bed ridden, old or severely burned?
THANKS FOR HELPING PROVE MY POINT, IF 70YR OLDS, BED RIDDEN, AND SEVERELY BURNED PEOPLE CAN GAIN MUSCLE WITH JUST VAR AND PROTEIN HOW MUCH MORE CAN ABLE BODIED, HARD LIFTING, GREAT DIET HAVING FORUM MEMBERS GAIN?

I SEE THAT NEITHER SCIENCE, NOR DEBATE ARE AMONG YOUR STRONG POINTS.

BEST TO YOU!