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    what exactly is your diet like and what do you do for cardio and have you ever did any reading on clen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricker35910 View Post
    what exactly is your diet like and what do you do for cardio and have you ever did any reading on clen?
    Switching from the typical American diet, I went to a clean low carb diet during September 2006. Lots of protein, low carbs, no junk, no fried foods, carbs come only from natural sources such as fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. I had become quite overtrained by the time I hit 15% and my metabolism had slowed down. So you can say I increased my carbs over the last several months to restore my metabolism and I actually slacked during this last week over the year because I know next year I will be strict again. I don't do cardio. I never did. Pretty much, I lost all that weight from heavy lifting and eating right.
    As for my plan for next year, I'm thinking of a change up. I was doing heavy weight training sessions 3 times per week over this past year; but I don't think I was getting enough upper body work and I was probably overtraining my lower back. For 2008, I might try a 5 day workout plan that covers the whole body better, less work on the lower back, more upper body work, and pretty much each body part once per week; you know, working each muscle more thoroughly; I was doing more strength training as opposed to the typical bodybuilding style where you really want to try to work each muscle very hard. So I think that might help because I am doing more overall work, stimulating each muscle more, yet giving my lower back the time it needs to recuperate.
    As for Clen, I never red much about it. But that is why I am here. I want to get some opinions on things like this. I understand that different illegal drugs can be very affective and safe if one uses them properly and doesn't abuse them. Since I loved training naturally over the years and am not actually looking to be a freak or do bodybuilding contests and among other reasons I am trying to avoid such drug use and continue to do things naturally, but it's just so darn frustrating when you are ready to get the last 10-15 lbs off and your metabolism crashes. It just sucks! So what I mean is, I want to avoid it if I can, but it is very tempting. And I might even do it if I have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helmet_yeah View Post
    Switching from the typical American diet, I went to a clean low carb diet during September 2006. Lots of protein, low carbs, no junk, no fried foods, carbs come only from natural sources such as fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. I had become quite overtrained by the time I hit 15% and my metabolism had slowed down. So you can say I increased my carbs over the last several months to restore my metabolism and I actually slacked during this last week over the year because I know next year I will be strict again. I don't do cardio. I never did. Pretty much, I lost all that weight from heavy lifting and eating right.
    As for my plan for next year, I'm thinking of a change up. I was doing heavy weight training sessions 3 times per week over this past year; but I don't think I was getting enough upper body work and I was probably overtraining my lower back. For 2008, I might try a 5 day workout plan that covers the whole body better, less work on the lower back, more upper body work, and pretty much each body part once per week; you know, working each muscle more thoroughly; I was doing more strength training as opposed to the typical bodybuilding style where you really want to try to work each muscle very hard. So I think that might help because I am doing more overall work, stimulating each muscle more, yet giving my lower back the time it needs to recuperate.
    As for Clen, I never red much about it. But that is why I am here. I want to get some opinions on things like this. I understand that different illegal drugs can be very affective and safe if one uses them properly and doesn't abuse them. Since I loved training naturally over the years and am not actually looking to be a freak or do bodybuilding contests and among other reasons I am trying to avoid such drug use and continue to do things naturally, but it's just so darn frustrating when you are ready to get the last 10-15 lbs off and your metabolism crashes. It just sucks! So what I mean is, I want to avoid it if I can, but it is very tempting. And I might even do it if I have to.
    i bet you can eat more carbs than what you were taking in, i take in 200-250grams when getting ready for a show but they are only oats, brown rice, and red skinned or sweet potatoes. lay out your diet and i'll be happy to tell you if you need to change anything. as for cardio, bro you need to do something to get that heart rate up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricker35910 View Post
    i bet you can eat more carbs than what you were taking in, i take in 200-250grams when getting ready for a show but they are only oats, brown rice, and red skinned or sweet potatoes. lay out your diet and i'll be happy to tell you if you need to change anything. as for cardio, bro you need to do something to get that heart rate up.
    Here is the scoop. I was eating 300 grams of protein per day, mostly from beef. I would also eat a lot of eggs and cheese. My carb intake was less than 20 grams per day for several months. Eventually I went on to 6 meals per day. It worked obviously as I pretty much dropped my composition in half. But like I said, once I got under 15% my metabolism dropped and I began to loose strength and overtrain, even on only 3 workouts per week. Over the last several months since summer 2007 I haven't been as strict. I have been keeping it clean, but not paying attention to the macros. And I even tried switching to high carb low fat for a few weeks; the results were good, revved up metabolism and increased strength. But I changed my mind about it. The reason why was because I figured that I had done so well on the low carb high fat diet for several months and I should not have gave up on it so quickly just because I had a bump in the road. I actually even gained strength off only 20 grams of carbs per day when I first started when I was fat. So anyways, I had an idea about the adjustments I might try for the new year. I was thinking I might try 100 grams of carbs per day Monday-Friday. And then I might decrease the carbs to less than 20 grams per day on Saturday and Sunday. A slight chang might be made. I was thinking I might let Sunday be a day where I can have much more carbs. The idea would be that I'm eating enough carbs to get through my workouts and to keep my metabolism high. The decreased carb day would be to burn more fat. The high carb day would also help to restore the metabolism. Also keep in mind that my LBM is about 155-165 lbs. I know that should make a difference on how many carbs I can eat. And I'm not into counting calories; I'd rather go by grams of carbs and grams of protein.
    But honestly, I think I might know what my main problem was. I dieted for too long and my body had become stubborn. And I was overtraining my lower back too. Probably what I needed is a way to increase exercise volume without overtraining; and in addition, I needed a way to keep my metabolism high.

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