GALLUP POLL: More than 8 out of 10 Americans identify with a Christian faith

[Logan13]

Sorry, I disagree.

We've hashed this notion out several times already; there's no need to hash it out again beyond stating that the lack of a beleif system is not a beleif system in itself.

There is nothing to "hash out". It can be summed up by asking the question: What do atheists' believe? They believe that there is no God.

There is not a lack of a belief system in atheism. Their beliefs are obvious from the breaking down of the word.
atheism:
athe - (athée, from Greek atheos) godless
ism - A distinctive doctrine, system, or theory. A belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group. A suffix, meaning ideology.

catholism:
cathol - (greek) "general" or "universal"
ism - A distinctive doctrine, system, or theory. A belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group. A suffix, meaning ideology.

Argue all you want. Again, the facts to do back up your stance..............

[Tock]

There is nothing to "hash out". It can be summed up by asking the question: What do atheists' believe? They believe that there is no God.

Take, for instance, the atheist most Americans beleive in: the God of the Bible. Assuming he exists, of course, it would be safe to assume that he has no information that a being superior to himself exists. So, would he "beleive" that, relative to himself, there was no god? Or would he be an atheist on the basis that he had no reason to suppose there was a being superior to himself?

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intransitive verb
1 a: to have a firm religious faith b: to accept as true, genuine, or real <ideals we believe in> <believes in ghosts>
2: to have a firm conviction as to the goodness, efficacy, or ability of something <believe in exercise>
3: to hold an opinion : think <I believe so>

transitive verb
1 a: to consider to be true or honest <believe the reports> <you wouldn't believe how long it took> b: to accept the word or evidence of <I believe you> <couldn't believe my ears>
2: to hold as an opinion : suppose <I believe it will rain soon>
— be·liev·er noun
— not believe : to be astounded at <I couldn't believe my luck>
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Again, would be surprised if anyone was really interested in this. I'm not sure I am.

[Logan13]

Take, for instance, the atheist most Americans beleive in: the God of the Bible. Assuming he exists, of course, it would be safe to assume that he has no information that a being superior to himself exists. So, would he "beleive" that, relative to himself, there was no god? Or would he be an atheist on the basis that he had no reason to suppose there was a being superior to himself?

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intransitive verb
1 a: to have a firm religious faith b: to accept as true, genuine, or real <ideals we believe in> <believes in ghosts>
2: to have a firm conviction as to the goodness, efficacy, or ability of something <believe in exercise>
3: to hold an opinion : think <I believe so>

transitive verb
1 a: to consider to be true or honest <believe the reports> <you wouldn't believe how long it took> b: to accept the word or evidence of <I believe you> <couldn't believe my ears>
2: to hold as an opinion : suppose <I believe it will rain soon>
— be·liev·er noun
— not believe : to be astounded at <I couldn't believe my luck>
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Again, would be surprised if anyone was really interested in this. I'm not sure I am.

Are you seriously attempting to redefine words in order to validate your illogical cliams? Be a man and except the truth for what it is............

[Tock]

Are you seriously attempting to redefine words in order to validate your illogical cliams? Be a man and except the truth for what it is............

No.

What I'm doing is carrying a conversation with a fellow who evidently does not speak English.

For instance, It's easy to accept the truth. However, I have no idea how one would except the truth. Perhaps you would like to take this golden opportunity to illuminate me?

[Carlos_E]

No.

What I'm doing is carrying a conversation with a fellow who evidently does not speak English.

For instance, It's easy to accept the truth. However, I have no idea how one would except the truth. Perhaps you would like to take this golden opportunity to illuminate me?

[Logan13]

I find it sad that your stances are so weak on facts that you resort to picking apart grammatical errors......... Just like a couple of little girls.

It's all good though as I will continue to educate the ignorant.

[Carlos_E]

I find it sad that your stances are so weak on facts that you resort to picking apart grammatical errors......... Just like a couple of little girls.

It's all good though as I will continue to educate the ignorant.

Excuse me? You're attacking me why? Tock is the one calling you out on grammar. I'm just sitting back enjoying the comedy.

The two of you remind me of 12 year old girls in a slap fight.

[Tock]

I find it sad that your stances are so weak on facts

If you were at all familiar with the English language, you would know that a stance is not the sort of thing to which facts can be applied:
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http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/stance

1chiefly Scottish a: station b: site
2 a: a way of standing or being placed : posture b: intellectual or emotional attitude <took an antiwar stance>
3 a: the position of the feet of a golfer or batter preparatory to making a swing b: the position of both body and feet from which an athlete starts or operates
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So you can cheer up now, since you no longer need weep for stances trying to make a happy, meaningful life for themselves without benefit of facts. As Republican US Senator Larry Craig (Gay-Idaho) has ably demonstrated, a stance can be either wide or narrow, and be observed, cherished, flourished with pride, photographed, testified about in court, or used as an example in an anabolic steroid forum, and require neither a fact to bolster it, nor a mid-westerner such as yourself to race to their defense. Like toads and bicycles, they have no need for one another.

that you resort to picking apart grammatical errors

There is, indeed, a significant difference between "picking apart grammatical errors" and trying to make heads or tails of what you were trying to say. What you had done was chose words that made no sense whatsoever, words that were as totally out of place as pajamas at a Cotillion.

It seems to me that anyone who would urge another to

Be a man and except the truth

proposes that his listener should neglect applying a set of ethics to a situation ("except the truth"). Or perhaps he is only uncomfortably unfamiliar with his chosen language. Or possibly he bravely labors under the sort of tragic deficiencies which call for our united encouragement instead of our derision. Whatever the cause for his embarrassment, I'm sure that someone who will hold him in their prayers.

Just like a couple of little girls.

You would be hard pressed to find two people more unlike girls than Carlos or myself. It will require no more than an hour in a securely locked room on a sturdy mattress with either one of us to convice you of the glorious truth of this fact.

[kfrost06]

There is nothing to "hash out". It can be summed up by asking the question: What do atheists' believe? They believe that there is no God.

There is not a lack of a belief system in atheism. Their beliefs are obvious from the breaking down of the word.
atheism:
athe - (athée, from Greek atheos) godless
ism - A distinctive doctrine, system, or theory. A belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group. A suffix, meaning ideology.

catholism:
cathol - (greek) "general" or "universal"
ism - A distinctive doctrine, system, or theory. A belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group. A suffix, meaning ideology.

Argue all you want. Again, the facts to do back up your stance..............

there you go again Logan, confusing them with the facts