If You Dont Believe In God...

[Logan13]

I'd rather bath in a lake of fire then listen to you preach.

you will get your wish.......
ahahahahah

[DSM4Life]

you will get your wish.......
ahahahahah

Good

[nirish_mark20]

the whole lake of fire thing gets me as well

if god sends me to hell for not following him, then that is exactly what the devil/satan wants me to have done, why would he want to punish me by burning me or raping me for all eternity?

plus id be dead, so i wouldnt feel anything!

[DSM4Life]

I just hope hell has tanning beds.

[alphaman]

WOW. Lookit this thread... I bet I could get it locked... lmao!!!

[Logan13]

I just hope hell has tanning beds.

...lol!

[gixxerboy1]

I just hope hell has tanning beds.

We will make goodcents bring one with him

[Logan13]

We will make goodcents bring one with him

Goodcents will be the official "lotion boy" down there!

[dupa95]

I have A god of my understanding. I also pray morning and night. I hate religion Religion Killed my spirituality.

[Renesis]

Wait is bigsexy religious or a non believer?

[Tock]

Why can God not be the one who got the evolution ball rolling in the first place?

Because there's too much of the Universe for it to have been the work of just one god. It's obvious that if the Universe didn't happen all by itself through processes that we humans do not yet understand, then it had to have taken at least as many gods to create everything as there are Congressmen in Washington, DC.

That much is obvious.

[Kale]

I am Agnostic as well. I do not believe that mankind has the ability to know who or what God is. Because of this, mankind can not know which organized religion, if any, will bring him closer to God. I have not been to church since I was given the option to keep going or not when I was 11 YO. But I do believe in God. God is not the perverbiable "mean kid sitting on the ant hill". Science and belief do not have to be at odds with one another.

Bingo !!!! We must be brothers (God I hope not) if there is one that is

[Tock]

Lexed] [/B]god is made up from religion

No, religion is merely man-kinds' attempt at understanding God.

So . . . that means that your attempt at understanding God, is merely your own invented religion, yes?

Well, I don't see why you shouldn't give it a try. It can't be any sillier than any of the other ones.

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[Squatman51]

i got a question for the people who believe in "theory of evolution" I understand that humans evolved an all that and the big bang theory stuff (which sounds bogus to me). Referring again to the big bang theory, everything started as one huge rock in space right and grew bigger and bigger then bang! But how did that get there in the first place and Where did space come from???? How big is it?

[Tock]

I can't say that I beleive in anything, but Determinism makes a lot of sense to me.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04756c.htm

The Catholic Church gives it a pretty good write-up, because it makes a lot of sense to their theologians too, but they can't bring themselves to overtly endorse it, because in their words:


The notions of responsibility, moralobligation, merit, and the like, as ordinarily understood, would be illusory if Determinism were true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

well, I dont have to time to go into anything right now. Ill get to that and the PMs later on.

btw, Im more on the non believer side if anything

also, this wasnt meant to be some big argument or anything, so just keep it cool ev1

[RANA]

well, I dont have to time to go into anything right now. Ill get to that and the PMs later on.

btw, Im more on the non believer side if anything

also, this wasnt meant to be some big argument or anything, so just keep it cool ev1

Come on BIGSEXY, how could you think this wasn't going to start a big argument? This will last for a few days, I think at least one person will get banned before the weekend is over.

[FREAK]

not me

[gixxerboy1]

i got a question for the people who believe in "theory of evolution" I understand that humans evolved an all that and the big bang theory stuff (which sounds bogus to me). Referring again to the big bang theory, everything started as one huge rock in space right and grew bigger and bigger then bang! But how did that get there in the first place and Where did space come from???? How big is it?

Nobody knows. But just because it cant be answered doesnt mean that some being "god" created it

[Lexed]

not me

*scratches of the list*

[Lexed]

I believe in unicorns and lepercons but since you cant prove that there not real then they could be real

[DSM4Life]

I believe in unicorns and lepercons but since you cant prove that there not real then they could be real

[Kingweb50]

I dont know what I believe in would be called but I believe in evolution of man but I think there is a god that started it all off but then let nature take its course.

[DSM4Life]

I think there is a god that started it all off but then let nature take its course.

Sounds right, a man creates the mess and leaves it for the women to try and clean up !

[Ajc330]

there are some very interesting posts here and i enjoy reading everyone's opinions

[Mrs. Mavsluva]

Now this is my kind of thread. You know what the greatest common denominator is of those who don't believe in God within this thread? They attempt to talk about why they don't believe in God and then attempt to convince others as to why they don't believe. The fact of the matter is that all of you that don't believe will have to use your current alibi one day towards something that is far greater than yourself. And I challenge you all to stick to your story when that time comes because He'll be the only one listening. (and already is)

[scriptfactory]

Now this is my kind of thread. You know what the greatest common denominator is of those who don't believe in God within this thread? They attempt to talk about why they don't believe in God and then attempt to convince others as to why they don't believe. The fact of the matter is that all of you that don't believe will have to use your current alibi one day towards something that is far greater than yourself. And I challenge you all to stick to your story when that time comes because He'll be the only one listening. (and already is)

Do you really believe that God sits somewhere and listens to everyone's excuses? Nothing implied, I'm just curious...

[Tock]

Now this is my kind of thread. You know what the greatest common denominator is of those who don't believe in God within this thread? They attempt to talk about why they don't believe in God and then attempt to convince others as to why they don't believe.

Not at all.
Here's an excerpt from my post above:
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I can't say that I beleive in anything, but Determinism makes a lot of sense to me. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04756c.htm
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The fact of the matter is that all of you that don't believe will have to use your current alibi one day towards something that is far greater than yourself. And I challenge you all to stick to your story when that time comes because He'll be the only one listening. (and already is)

You don't really say anything at all in this paragraph, do you? Sounds like only a few vague threats of doom and FEAR to motivate people to beleive in a cruel and vengeful god. "Turn or Burn."
Well, tell me this: you say that since I don't beleive, I'll "have to use my current alibi one day towards something that is far greater than myself." Tell me, if you would be so kind, just exactly WTF you are talking about? Who is this Evil Boogieman that is patiently awaiting its opportunity to Torment and Torture the vast majority of humans who have ever existed on the face of this planet with unspeakable torment? And why would anyone want to worship such a vile, malignant, pestilant and sadistic blight on the universe?

[Tbone1975]

you will get your wish.......
ahahahahah

Obviously, you will too for wishing the worst on your fellow man. Relax with the certainty on your own personal beliefs. No one knows what is going on out there, even if they claim to be one hundred percent certain. Often, when you even talk to people like that, you see that they are deeply flawed. Anyone with wisdom can find and locate flaws in people, ie, eye contact, etc. I personally grew up Catholic. I was raised very properly in terms of parents who tried to instill a solid religious path into my life. I went to church every sunday until eighth grade. After that, not much, until trials and tribulations in the worst part of my life. Bottom line, I did not like what I found out. IMO, if you are going through hard times, take it into your own hands, don't rely on anything, because it may not exist. In the end, I guess, I think there are very good odds that God may exist. There are also, obviously, very good odds that God may not be a Muslim God, a Christian God, or give the first two sh*ts about you or me. I try to live my life as brave and bold as I can, with all this in mind.

[Logan13]

So . . . that means that your attempt at understanding God, is merely your own invented religion, yes?

Well, I don't see why you shouldn't give it a try. It can't be any sillier than any of the other ones.

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Of course Agnosticism is a belief system, as is atheism along with every other "ism" out there..... But I did not invent it.

[Logan13]

I can't say that I beleive in anything, but Determinism makes a lot of sense to me.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04756c.htm

The Catholic Church gives it a pretty good write-up, because it makes a lot of sense to their theologians too, but they can't bring themselves to overtly endorse it, because in their words:


The notions of responsibility, moralobligation, merit, and the like, as ordinarily understood, would be illusory if Determinism were true.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

sound like humanism to me.

[Logan13]

well, I dont have to time to go into anything right now. Ill get to that and the PMs later on.

btw, Im more on the non believer side if anything

also, this wasnt meant to be some big argument or anything, so just keep it cool ev1

turned into an interesting discussion.

[Logan13]

Obviously, you will too for wishing the worst on your fellow man. Relax with the certainty on your own personal beliefs. No one knows what is going on out there, even if they claim to be one hundred percent certain. Often, when you even talk to people like that, you see that they are deeply flawed. Anyone with wisdom can find and locate flaws in people, ie, eye contact, etc. I personally grew up Catholic. I was raised very properly in terms of parents who tried to instill a solid religious path into my life. I went to church every sunday until eighth grade. After that, not much, until trials and tribulations in the worst part of my life. Bottom line, I did not like what I found out. IMO, if you are going through hard times, take it into your own hands, don't rely on anything, because it may not exist. In the end, I guess, I think there are very good odds that God may exist. There are also, obviously, very good odds that God may not be a Muslim God, a Christian God, or give the first two sh*ts about you or me. I try to live my life as brave and bold as I can, with all this in mind.

We were having fun as I do not believe in hell, but as I stated I do believe in God. Would you have read the entire thread, you may have picked up on these facts..........

[DSM4Life]

We were having fun as I do not believe in hell, but as I stated I do believe in God. Would you have read the entire thread, you may have picked up on these facts..........

I don’t understand this logan. You say you believe in god and I respect that by not challenging your beliefs. So why would you have such a need to challenge others?

[Kale]

Now this is my kind of thread. You know what the greatest common denominator is of those who don't believe in God within this thread? They attempt to talk about why they don't believe in God and then attempt to convince others as to why they don't believe. The fact of the matter is that all of you that don't believe will have to use your current alibi one day towards something that is far greater than yourself. And I challenge you all to stick to your story when that time comes because He'll be the only one listening. (and already is)

And you know all of this because ? This all comes down to one thing...... brainwashing.

[Logan13]

I don’t understand this logan. You say you believe in god and I respect that by not challenging your beliefs. So why would you have such a need to challenge others?

Tbone is under the impression that I was literally damning you to hell. I wanted to clarify that I was not.

[Tbone1975]

We were having fun as I do not believe in hell, but as I stated I do believe in God. Would you have read the entire thread, you may have picked up on these facts..........

?? I read the whole thread genius. BTW LOL, you outta make it to church at least once. How can you comment like this before at least trying to kneel before God, drink his blood, eat his body, sing his songs, and sing praise to Him. Geez! You should dig in a bit before you offer your worldly advice. I speak with sarcasm, because I don't understand your above post. I read everything. I think you should stop arguing. If you don't I probably will so you'll be satisfied, as Lord knows I haven't even looked at one of my previous threads where's someone really pissed me off.

[Logan13]

?? I read the whole thread genius. BTW LOL, you outta make it to church at least once. How can you comment like this before at least trying to kneel before God, drink his blood, eat his body, sing his songs, and sing praise to Him. Geez! You should dig in a bit before you offer your worldly advice. I speak with sarcasm, because I don't understand your above post. I read everything. I think you should stop arguing. If you don't I probably will so you'll be satisfied, as Lord knows I haven't even looked at one of my previous threads where's someone really pissed me off.

I have no idea what you are talking about, are you sure that you do........?

[Tbone1975]

I have no idea what you are talking about, are you sure that you do........?

I couldn't be more clear now thank you. You are a trouble maker. I will not ever look at this post again. Adios moron.

[Logan13]

I will not ever look at this post again.

Yes you will, you need to have the last word..............