opinions on the cycle I just started..

[annihil8tion]

no need to do half the dose for the first week..do the whole dose..your body will be fine..both are long esters that take several weeks to kick in..your gains you get and keep are totally dependant on your diet, training and PCT..there is no way to tell you how much you will gain or keep..that was my first cycle..ate like a champ while on...gained about 20 lbs in 12 weeks..lost 75% of it when I stopped b/c my diet sucked ass..lesson learned

Wow no shit. Yeah I just change my regmien to do the whole dose... Thanks.

Was your 20 lbs lean? Water weight?

I can already feel myself getting hungrier...

What do you mean ur diet sucked ass? Not enuf protein? Shit food?

[longhorn814]

Wow no shit. Yeah I just change my regmien to do the whole dose... Thanks.

Was your 20 lbs lean? Water weight?

I can already feel myself getting hungrier...

What do you mean ur diet sucked ass? Not enuf protein? Shit food?

no it was lean muscle..its very hard to put on 20 lbs of lean muscle in 12 weeks..most average ~10lbs of lean muscle/year..yeah i stopped eat so great, went on a few benders and even got the flu at one point..

[annihil8tion]

no it was lean muscle..its very hard to put on 20 lbs of lean muscle in 12 weeks..most average ~10lbs of lean muscle/year..yeah i stopped eat so great, went on a few benders and even got the flu at one point..

Man thanks horn.. appreciate it..

One more question then I will leave u be..

In your opinion can those gains be maitained following the cycle if you keep up your protein intake and continue to train right?

I guess my goal is 5'11 200 - 210

I am 5'11 175 - 180 now...

Thanks