Ron Paul's Economic Revival Plan

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Sligthly off topic but one thing about nasa. I agree that NASA should now leave manned spaceflight to virgin, Bigelow and others. NASA has already more or less perfected chemical rocket technology and there is no reason whatsoever for them to waste a bunch of billions on the entire constellation project.

They should focus on stuff like the james webb telescope that is going to replace hubble and most of all on experimental propulsion methods like laser propulsion or nuclear thermal propulsion. Things that are a bit into the future and to risky for virgin and others to invest in but that has the potential to cut launch cost down by a factor of 100.

[Pooks]

LOL WEEEEEEEEE!!! LOL

Yes those are things NASA gave us..

and I can't show examples of what we might have instead if that money was left to private investment...because thats an alternate present.

but..
Electricity was discovered in Private.. Nikola tesla/Edison
the Telephone was discovered in private..

Hell maybe pretty much all the inventions discovered before the 1950's were discovered by Private investment. .. and a lot of things since than also,, all those NASDAQ companies today.

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thats all I can is offer the past..
Cause There is no way at all we would know what could had been invented privately today, if NASA and the Soviet Program had never existed..
But it definitely would had free'd up a lot of $$$$$$$$$ for a lot of other things. + gov't efficiently with money is always suspect.

I would bet though, that a lot of people would want to explore and learn about space.. like Gallileo and many others had in the past.. and without NASA they would had picked up the slack themselves.

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Kinda off topic.

Nasa is well thats a hard one. Some things government needs to have control.

But some of you don tget the big picture Ron Paul wants to make government get smaller and stop this wasteful spending. Such as having bases in over half the of the countries in this world and trying to police the world, when we should sotp wasting money. Im a complete paul supporter but some things such as nasa just dont go.

I also agree for the most part that public health care is a bad idea and isnt a right. Privatized health care would make it alot better.

However every single one of us can agree that us having our troops around the world is a god dam waste of money. And with the amount of money the CIA and Defense consumes could be put towards alot better things.

While certain things like Nasa are a debatle topic it doesnt reallly matter when your wasting much more money trying to police the world.

[Pooks]

Sligthly off topic but one thing about nasa. I agree that NASA should now leave manned spaceflight to virgin, Bigelow and others. NASA has already more or less perfected chemical rocket technology and there is no reason whatsoever for them to waste a bunch of billions on the entire constellation project.

They should focus on stuff like the james webb telescope that is going to replace hubble and most of all on experimental propulsion methods like laser propulsion or nuclear thermal propulsion. Things that are a bit into the future and to risky for virgin and others to invest in but that has the potential to cut launch cost down by a factor of 100.

I do like those ideas.. and the james webb telescope does sound interesting, but thats EXACTLY how we get suckered into taking money from "private sector projects" (faceless, unnamed projects) that we DO NEED.... and take that money away thru taxes to fund projects that we don't really need, but are just curious.

[Kärnfysikern]

LOL WEEEEEEEEE!!! LOL

Yes those are things NASA gave us..

and I can't show examples of what we might have instead if that money was left to private investment...because thats an alternate present.

but..
Electricity was discovered in Private.. Nikola tesla/Edison
the Telephone was discovered in private..

Hell maybe pretty much all the inventions discovered before the 1950's were discovered by Private investment. .. and a lot of things since than also,, all those NASDAQ companies today.

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thats all I can is offer the past..
Cause There is no way at all we would know what could had been invented privately today, if NASA and the Soviet Program had never existed..
But it definitely would had free'd up a lot of $$$$$$$$$ for a lot of other things. + gov't efficiently with money is always suspect.

I would bet though, that a lot of people would want to explore and learn about space.. like Gallileo and many others had in the past.. and without NASA they would had picked up the slack themselves.

And most importantly the transistor was invented at Bell Labs and that is probably the most important invention ever But offcourse Bell Lab did alot of defense related stuff so maby the discovery was made by taxpayer money

I realy like what Virgin and others are doing. I just think there are projects to big and to expensive with to little(if any) return on the investment for private companies to ever be interested in investing. Fundamental science would grind to a halt without money from the goverments around the world and fundamental science today is what produces technology tomorrow.

Private research and state funded research have different perspectives and different goals.

I do like those ideas.. and the james webb telescope does sound interesting, but thats EXACTLY how we get suckered into taking money from "private sector projects" that we DO NEED.... and take that money away thru taxes to fund projects that we don't really need, but are just curious.

But in relation to for instance defense spendings its still just a drop in the ocean. The F-22 Raptor program alone cost as much as NASAs budget for 6 years. Im sure there is plenty of pork to be trimmed in the US. But IMO what NASA and other pure science institutes are doing is well worth the money.