help on 1st cycle!

[tommy2724]

hi guys, newbie on this so go easy lol just want any advice or corrections on this cycle which will be my first after 2yrs training and a good diet.would i gain much of this?

week 1-10 250mg mon - 250mg thur sust250

PCT CLOMID
21days afetr last inject
DAY1 60mg
DAY2-11 40mg
DAY12-21 20mg

does this look ok? is clomid the right med to use for this? and if i started seeing sighns of early sides in course shall i start clomid during course?

Thanks guys

[soccer#3]

no one knows how much u will gain. whats more important imo is how much will u keep.

i'd throw in an AI in ur pct as well, something like aromasin, i'd also up the clomid doses to 100mg ed

[tommy2724]

cheers soccer. if i start seeing side effects while on the cycle and not after wat shall i be taking during the course if needed? or is thre something else i could take while on the cycle to prevent or help the sides(like nolva)? thanks

[shifty_git]

Stay away from the clomid on course, use in ya pct (if you already have it)

Like Soccar said, an AI like aromasin for pct is def the best product to use..
But if you can afford Aromasin id go for Arimidex.

If you already got the clomid that kool, but if you havent got it yet, id get nolva instead. imo

Nolva is a lot better mg for mg than clomid, with less unwanted sides (being an emotional b!tch for starters! lol) although either will do.

[tommy2724]

o and is Tamox nolva? if not does any1 no wat its propper name is .cheers

[tommy2724]

iv not got the clomid yet shifty, so shall i use nolva and the same dosage for pct? is there nothing u cn take while on cycle to help prevent sides ?

[Kale]

cheers soccer. if i start seeing side effects while on the cycle and not after wat shall i be taking during the course if needed? or is thre something else i could take while on the cycle to prevent or help the sides(like nolva)? thanks

In my opinion dont take anything, watch for sensitive nipples. If that happens get your self some arimidex/Liquidex (its the same thing) and take it at 0.5 mg ed until the sides go away.

Your PCT should look like this

Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

[soccer#3]

yes nolva = tamox

[shifty_git]

o and is Tamox nolva? if not does any1 no wat its propper name is .cheers

Correct.

Also, if you did wanna run an AI while on cycle (only bother if you experience the sides, you shouldnt on 500mg of sus per week) go for the arimidex.. handy if you get enough for ya planned pct + a little more just incase you wanna use it on cycle.

[shifty_git]

In my opinion dont take anything, watch for sensitive nipples. If that happens get your self some arimidex/Liquidex (its the same thing) and take it at 0.5 mg ed until the sides go away.

Your PCT should look like this

Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

oi oi kale!

you reakon the fella could get away with EITHER clomid or nolva? + an AI.

as only a sus course, and need V's cost... (although i will say i like using both, but thats my personal choice)

[tommy2724]

thanks gys ur help is appreciated! not sure if this is breaking rules but sorry if it is, but were would i get the meds from? can u buy them like at pharm as its meds? my source who i get the gear off i dont think will know about that,hes just a foolish lad who just uses gear and not bothered about the sides? cheers

[shifty_git]

thanks gys ur help is appreciated! not sure if this is breaking rules but sorry if it is, but were would i get the meds from? can u buy them like at pharm as its meds? my source who i get the gear off i dont think will know about that,hes just a foolish lad who just uses gear and not bothered about the sides? cheers

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[tommy2724]

thanks shify and others, forums like this rly help out us newbies and 1st timers, is it all legit on ar-r??

[Kale]

oi oi kale!

you reakon the fella could get away with EITHER clomid or nolva? + an AI.

as only a sus course, and need V's cost... (although i will say i like using both, but thats my personal choice)

He could run the anthony roberts PCT with Nolva only. The clomid/nolva PCT is the most often used however. Personally I hate Clomid but it does work. I think just because its sust only is irrelevant, he will be shutdown hard after that cycle and will need a good PCT to get restarted.

[tommy2724]

ok nice info. think il be on safe side an use clomid and nolva as pct, can some 1 please put down a pct cycle for clomid and nolva with the dosage 4 me as never done it b4? that should be ok for 1st cycle shudnt it

[ChuckLee]

I wouldn't use sust for a first cycle. Test E or C.
CL

[Panzerfaust80]

You will gain 31.3 lbs exactly, anything less and you have fake gear.

[tommy2724]

how have u come across to guess that? have u gained well of that cycle then

[tommy2724]

can some 1 please put down a pct cycle for clomid and nolva with the dosage 4 me as never done it b4? that should be ok for 1st cycle shudnt it

[shifty_git]

He could run the anthony roberts PCT with Nolva only. The clomid/nolva PCT is the most often used however. Personally I hate Clomid but it does work. I think just because its sust only is irrelevant, he will be shutdown hard after that cycle and will need a good PCT to get restarted.

True, i find the benefit of clomid and nolva do outweigh any sides...
I know what ya sayin that its in ways irrelevent its just sus, but natty system is ganna pick up easier compared with deca or tren...

I wouldn't use sust for a first cycle. Test E or C.
CL

True, and good time to ask... Tommy, have you already got ya sus if you havent already got ya pct stuff?

You will gain 31.3 lbs exactly, anything less and you have fake gear.

32.3 lbs, you forgot to carry the 1. ha ha

[shifty_git]

can some 1 please put down a pct cycle for clomid and nolva with the dosage 4 me as never done it b4? that should be ok for 1st cycle shudnt it

Well this is ya last hint, after this ya ganna have to do the research - but good to be pointed in the right direction!

check out Pheednos PCT in the PCT forum

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

[tommy2724]

no not yet shifty was going to get the gear later.dont know if he can get test as he onli uses sus,and from wat iv heard alot of ppl get good gains off that as 1st cycle but mite just be them,ordering the pct as soon as i can get a rough guide on how much i need!?

[tommy2724]

ok thanks shifty

[Panzerfaust80]

how have u come across to guess that? have u gained well of that cycle then

nah I was just playin around bro, but you should see some decent gains. at least 20 lbs. I went from 5'11 174 to over 200 lbs on my 1st cycle. strength thru the roof, and laid 4x as much..

[tommy2724]

ok cheers panzer il work my hardest ha im 5'11 also at 153lbs so hopefully get up to 170