Quote Originally Posted by legobricks View Post
Ive seen many people use dbol only as a cycle. They blow up big and fast and lose it all in the end. I think that one of those guys kept like 4lbs out of it. ITs very dumb by itself tho IMO as it really messes with your head. And winny can be used by itself but the benefits arent that great unless your already a low BF%.
I have heard some running the winny alone with modest-great results, just as you mentioned(low bf%). I wasn't saying that I haven't heard of noone doing a dbol only cycle, just don't think its wise, in agreement with the facts you stated.

He just doesn't sound like he is ready..