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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    I did not say "Carlos is voting for obama only because he is black". I am simply tired of so many local blacks here saying this. Regardless that it may hurt your feelings, my point is a valid one.
    You said:
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    Just remember, voting for someone because of race is just as racist as not voting for someone because of race........
    Sorry, I'm not one of your "local Blacks." We do not have a uni-mind and all think alike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    You said:

    Sorry, I'm not one of your "local Blacks." We do not have a uni-mind and all think alike.
    No disrespect, it is just what the facts are in my neck of the woods. But can you honestly tell me that you and some friends have not talked about the 2008 presidential campaign in terms of race, at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    No disrespect, it is just what the facts are in my neck of the woods. But can you honestly tell me that you and some friends have not talked about the 2008 presidential campaign in terms of race, at all?
    Logan, some of your comments are borderline offensive.

    I would like to know if you have actually heard many (e.g. more than one or two) black people in your area say they are voting for Obama only because he is black. I have a strong feeling that you are just making it up based upon your views of black Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory View Post
    Logan, some of your comments are borderline offensive.

    I would like to know if you have actually heard many (e.g. more than one or two) black people in your area say they are voting for Obama only because he is black. I have a strong feeling that you are just making it up based upon your views of black Americans.
    Based on his comments I'd be shocked if he personally knows more than 2 Black Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    That is a good point. It amazes me how the masses wet themselves over empty emotional speech.
    This quote comes to mind....

    All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to.
    It might not be very pc to quote Hitler but that murderous bastard sure knew how to play people like a fine tuned violing. The problem with society is that 50% of the population by definition has a IQ less than 100. You dont win the "stupid vote" by elaborate explanations on complex issues like economy ect. You win it by simple emotionaly charged but empty rhetoric.

    For every genious that cast a well considered vote there is a unimaginably stupid **** that cancel that vote by voting by his gut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kärnfysikern View Post
    You win it by simple emotionaly charged but empty rhetoric.

    For every genious that cast a well considered vote there is a unimaginably stupid **** that cancel that vote by voting by his gut.
    A Giulliani quote comes to mind "You wanna know how the war's gonna end. Here it is: we win, they loose." (crowd cheers)

    Luckily, he most likely won't win because of his lame strategy.

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    Ron Paul's strategy has never been to win the Republican nomination this year.

    It was to use the Republican candidate spotlight, to get the Libertarian party on the map. For Presidency in future elections, as well as other offices.

    By taking part as a “republican candidate” he gets his views out there for people to see, and gains notoriety.

    Then, the second step is to run as an independent libertarian.

    Because a lot of people now will vote for him, he has the potential to gain enough of the popular vote to get the Libertarian party federal funding to campaign in the next elections.

    After that, there will always be enough popular vote to keep them in the races, even if they do not get elected, they still become a bigger player from then on.

    That will allow more of their ideas to be adopted by either major party, and to take effect. Even allow for more libertarians to gain political ground.

    That is the real strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kärnfysikern View Post
    This quote comes to mind....



    It might not be very pc to quote Hitler but that murderous bastard sure knew how to play people like a fine tuned violing. The problem with society is that 50% of the population by definition has a IQ less than 100. You dont win the "stupid vote" by elaborate explanations on complex issues like economy ect. You win it by simple emotionaly charged but empty rhetoric.

    For every genious that cast a well considered vote there is a unimaginably stupid **** that cancel that vote by voting by his gut.
    Very intelligent post Johan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    Very intelligent post Johan!
    Well thank you good sir Its not often that we agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    Based on his comments I'd be shocked if he personally knows more than 2 Black Americans.
    One of my best "black" friends is in Rikers, right now. I do not see the need to convince you of anything more. I know who I am, and you must know who you are. But again, anytime criticism is cast in the direction of a "person of color", the race card comes out. This is usually a front for a lack of ability to debunk one's statement. Knowing this to be true, name calling just doesn't phase me anymore..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    One of my best "black" friends is in Rikers, right now. I do not see the need to convince you of anything more. I know who I am, and you must know who you are. But again, anytime criticism is cast in the direction of a "person of color", the race card comes out. This is usually a front for a lack of ability to debunk one's statement. Knowing this to be true, name calling just doesn't phase me anymore..........
    Race card? You were the one to pull the race card. Again you said:
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    Just remember, voting for someone because of race is just as racist as not voting for someone because of race........
    You brought his race into the conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory View Post
    Logan, some of your comments are borderline offensive.

    I would like to know if you have actually heard many (e.g. more than one or two) black people in your area say they are voting for Obama only because he is black. I have a strong feeling that you are just making it up based upon your views of black Americans.
    what view is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    what view is that?
    I'm not trying to make any accusations! I just think you are influenced by your views of black Americans. I don't know what those views are.

    What about your friend in Rikers? Who is he voting for? j/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory View Post
    What about your friend in Rikers? Who is he voting for? j/k
    Cute. I don't think that he has ever voted.

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