Arimidex

[rampage12]

question y are u running test e with clen?

[largerthannormal]

question y are u running test e with clen?

y is running test E with clen bad?? please explain?????

[New2Anabolic]

test e with clen:

to keep the lean muscle i have, while dropping body weight (ie. fat)



This all goes with a reduced caloric intake (and clean eating) alongside STUPID cardio.
..which you have to just learn to love sometimes.


ALSO...

so I'm not sure if I should or shouldn't but I'm thinking that I might run a low dose with my cycle, to keep off all possible bloat.
the leaner the better, in MY books.

[M302_Imola]

question y are u running test e with clen?

If you run clen without any anabolics (while in a calorie deficit diet) then it will put your body in a catabolic state and you will burn all kinds of precious muscle.

[Krzy]

If you run clen without any anabolics (while in a calorie deficit diet) then it will put your body in a catabolic state and you will burn all kinds of precious muscle.

Not true bro. Clen is actually an anti-catabolic, so it is great for preserving muscle while on a calorie deficient diet. It also does not need to be run with an anabolic. That's why a great deal of people use it during their PCT because it helps them cut up, plus preserves their muscle.

[rampage12]

Not true bro. Clen is actually an anti-catabolic, so it is great for preserving muscle while on a calorie deficient diet. It also does not need to be run with an anabolic. That's why a great deal of people use it during their PCT because it helps them cut up, plus preserves their muscle.

well i didnt know this or i would of planned on adding it to my pct i still have time so might look in too it after i do some research on it

[M302_Imola]

Not true bro. Clen is actually an anti-catabolic, so it is great for preserving muscle while on a calorie deficient diet. It also does not need to be run with an anabolic. That's why a great deal of people use it during their PCT because it helps them cut up, plus preserves their muscle.

actually clen has only been proven to be anit-catabolic at an extremely high dose and for prolonged periods. The anti-catabolic effects don't take place until about 6 weeks into it. When clen is ran at low doses for a short amount of time the only way to stay anti-catabolic is to run aas with it. Many people use it in the beginning of their PCT because the long esters from aas are still in their system, therefore their body will stay in the anabolic state.

[sorel_C]

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[sorel_C]

actually clen has only been proven to be anit-catabolic at an extremely high dose and for prolonged periods. The anti-catabolic effects don't take place until about 6 weeks into it. When clen is ran at low doses for a short amount of time the only way to stay anti-catabolic is to run aas with it. Many people use it in the beginning of their PCT because the long esters from aas are still in their system, therefore their body will stay in the anabolic state.

You most defenitly are not mistaken for t-3???? post up the study, would definatly be intresting to read something diffrent from what is usually preached by many .

[M302_Imola]

You most defenitly are not mistaken for t-3???? post up the study, would definatly be intresting to read something diffrent from what is usually preached by many .

I wish I had the study. I have just been reading up on clen threads for a while now. If you read around you will find that there are many guys on here that feel the same way as I do about clen and it's catabolic properties.

[longhorn814]

You most defenitly are not mistaken for t-3???? post up the study, would definatly be intresting to read something diffrent from what is usually preached by many .

clen is not anti-catabolic..its parroted on here and many places..clen only starts to exhibit ant-catabolic properties when you start taking very high doses..im talking much higher than it what is taken by humans..the information is out there if you wanna search for it..

[sorel_C]

clen is not anti-catabolic..its parroted on here and many places..clen only starts to exhibit ant-catabolic properties when you start taking very high doses..im talking much higher than it what is taken by humans..the information is out there if you wanna search for it..

Good to know,, luckliy ive never been a clen kind of guy,, sh*t gets me edgy and nervous,,, worse then expresso's do

[M302_Imola]

clen is not anti-catabolic..its parroted on here and many places..clen only starts to exhibit ant-catabolic properties when you start taking very high doses..im talking much higher than it what is taken by humans..the information is out there if you wanna search for it..

my point exactly!

[New2Anabolic]

actually clen has only been proven to be anit-catabolic at an extremely high dose and for prolonged periods. The anti-catabolic effects don't take place until about 6 weeks into it. When clen is ran at low doses for a short amount of time the only way to stay anti-catabolic is to run aas with it. Many people use it in the beginning of their PCT because the long esters from aas are still in their system, therefore their body will stay in the anabolic state.

So with my TEST E cycle, and my clen cycle (I'm at day #2 of 40/40/80/80/120/120 etc.) you are saying I should hold off with my Arimidex until my PCT?
Right now I'm taking it during, to control bloat.

[M302_Imola]

So with my TEST E cycle, and my clen cycle (I'm at day #2 of 40/40/80/80/120/120 etc.) you are saying I should hold off with my Arimidex until my PCT?
Right now I'm taking it during, to control bloat.

No you can continue running the arimidex to help reduce water retention my point in the statement above was that you don't want to run clen without aas (ex. test e) in your system or you will burn muscle. I would run a moderate dose of arimidex .5mg EOD, you don't want to block to much estrogen and have your gains suffer.

[KeepBuilding]

So with my TEST E cycle, and my clen cycle (I'm at day #2 of 40/40/80/80/120/120 etc.) you are saying I should hold off with my Arimidex until my PCT?
Right now I'm taking it during, to control bloat.

ur in a cutting cycle right? So you need to control all the estrogens u can. The point isnt the water retention, but the estrogen itself. This hormone may lead to some fat deposits, or just some female pattern fat deposits. The water retention going off and the hard shape you get with it is another "plus".