Berkeley council tells Marines to leave

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Nope.

The Marines should get over their fear of gay people.

True or False-
"Don't ask don't tell" the law that the Marines are following was given to us by a congress controlled by the Democrats and signed in to law by the "gay friendly" president Bill Clinton?
Perhaps Berkeley should take it up with the Democrats?

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True or False-
"Don't ask don't tell" the law that the Marines are following was given to us by a congress controlled by the Democrats and signed in to law by the "gay friendly" president Bill Clinton?
Perhaps Berkeley should take it up with the Democrats?

Clinton said he was going to issue an Executive Order requiring the military to integrate the military. The Senate and Congress both said that if he did, they'd undo his Executive Order, and then make things a lot worse for gays who were in the military. And yes, both the Senate and the Congress were controlled by Democrats.

Before DADT, if a gay soldier volunteered that he was gay, then they'd usually kick him out with an honorable discharge, as long as he wasn't having sex with anyone. But if they found out about him first, then they'd kick him out with a dishonorable discharge (try getting a job with something like that on your DD214), unless he was caught having sex, and then they might put him in a military prison for a while, before kicking him out. And then give him a dishonorable discharge.
Me, I told the USAF that I was gay back in 1977, and that I wanted to stay in (I kept a diary during that little adventure; one of these days I'll have to tell my story). They took 3 months to figure out what they were going to do with me. Meanwhile, I continued to live in the barracks, and whenever anyone asked me why they Commanding Officer releived me of duty and had me doing yardwork, I told them what was going on. Without exception, they were 100% supportive.

Clinton had the Pentegon work up a compromise between his position and the Republican's. They came up with DADT. Clinton asked the two openly gay congressmen at the time for their opinion. Barney Frank said take the compromise, Gerry Studds said don't compromise. The rest is history.


Here's an interesting look at what was going on at the time:
http://dont.stanford.edu/regulations/briefing.pdf


And here's an interesting article on the subject by Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t...C_don%27t_tell



And, yes, the Marines need to get over their fear of gay people.
NATO countries allow gays to serve in their Armed Forces, so whenever NATO troops and US troops work together, US troops will be in contact with gay people anyway . . .