Deca & Test E Stack?

[STEROIDMD]

Ok I'm 5'9 and 185lbs. Working out for a couple years. Just finishing up a 10 week cycle of equipoise (400mg/week). I know its not very exciting but just wanted to start off with something mild as its my 1st cycle in 8-10 years and I'm gyno prone.
So there's 2 questions: I have nolva and clomid for pct but eq being so mild do you think I need both? Or will the clomid do?
For my next cycle (figure I'll wait about 6 weeks) I'm going to use 500mg of test e for 12 weeks and 400mg of deca for 10 weeks and .25mg arimidex/day.
Any concerns with this for my second cycle? And again I'll be using nolva and clomid for pct? Should I also use hcg every 3-4 days during cycle or use it during pct? Or is it not necessary at all? I've read different schools of thought. Lastly would anyone advise also using clen during pct?
I know there's more than 2 questions there
As always your advise is greatly appreciated.

[STEROIDMD]

Anyone???

[shifty_git]

Id personally do a full PCT after any cycle... not worth the risk and best to get ya system full restored as soon as possible. Although after eq you might get away with using just some nolva or clomid.

If your gyno prone get an AI to take while on cycle, and also inclde an AI in your PCT. Heres a link to Pheedno's PCT which uses Nolva, Clomid and Arimidex.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

If you pick up some arimidex that can be used on cycle and in PCT - so is cost effective.

They say time between cycles should be Time ON + PCT = Time off.. so jumping back on in 6 weeks maybe a bit soon.

[STEROIDMD]

Thanks shifty. Ur always helpful. How bout the deca/test e? Good in ur opinion for my 2nd cycle? How bout the clen?

[STEROIDMD]

Oh yeah... and how bout th HCG during, post, or not at all?

[shifty_git]

Thanks shifty. Ur always helpful. How bout the deca/test e? Good in ur opinion for my 2nd cycle? How bout the clen?

Test and Deca is alway a good cycle imo.

People say about water bloat and such things.. but that comes mainly down to your diet more than anything.

What would be your reasons for using clen? whats ya bf% at?

Oh yeah... and how bout th HCG during, post, or not at all?

Id hang off using it unless you need 2. If ya danglys start shrinking 2 much then start using it, that wont be till the latter part of the cycle anyway.

[STEROIDMD]

Clen would be to loose body fat, not sure of my percentage but could stand to loose 5-10lbs around my stomach. Also have read that it has an mildly anabolic effect and good in pct's for that reason.

[shifty_git]

Whats ya age and stats?

[STEROIDMD]

31 years, 5'9, 185lbs

[shifty_git]

You know what ya bf% is?

So whats your goals for this cycle?

[ChuckLee]

Clen would be to loose body fat, not sure of my percentage but could stand to loose 5-10lbs around my stomach. Also have read that it has an mildly anabolic effect and good in pct's for that reason.

Clen has also an anti-catabolic effect, but it comes at higher dosages, so it's suggested to be used for fatloss purposes only.

CL

[STEROIDMD]

You know what ya bf% is?

So whats your goals for this cycle?

Not sure of bf%. As I said though I could stand to loose 5-10lbs in the mid-section. My diet is already pretty lean and I do 1/2 hour of cardio 4-5 times/week. Stubburn weight.

[ChuckLee]

Not sure of bf%. As I said though I could stand to loose 5-10lbs in the mid-section. My diet is already pretty lean and I do 1/2 hour of cardio 4-5 times/week. Stubburn weight.

Try this:
http://www.active.com/fitness/calculators/bodyfat/

[largerthannormal]

nolva and clomid together would be ideal! nolva of course is better at getting your natty test up .. but dont leave out the clomid! i think its possible to keep more gains when both are used!

[Schmidty]

Fvck yeah use clen... I luv that shit!

[STEROIDMD]

Fvck yeah use clen... I luv that shit!

Do u use during, pct, or both?

[largerthannormal]

during! or as a part of

[largerthannormal]

during PCT that is!

[shifty_git]

during PCT that is!

oo u did tease us there!

[largerthannormal]

oo u did tease us there!

lmfao.......

[legobricks]

Clens anti-catabolic effects are overatted and the doses in which are effective are unsafe for human consumption. Please see Beast's clen faq's where youll get everything explained to you.

[largerthannormal]

yeah i heard that as well! but what if its used in unsafe amounts! and what is considered unsafe. i hit 160 and seen a few hit over 200. not sure if that was really necesary though! i think ill always stay under 140!! either way its not going to hurt ya if ya use it during pct all lego bricks is trying to say is u may not get the desired affect of using clen during pct becuase it has anti-catabolic affects are only achieved with unsafe amounts of clenabuterol!

[legobricks]

clen will be great for burning any fat you gained during cycle. Make sure to keep up cardio, diet, and your lifts with a great PCT and youll be fine.

[RANA]

nolva and clomid together would be ideal! nolva of course is better at getting your natty test up .. but dont leave out the clomid! i think its possible to keep more gains when both are used!

Bingo,
I would try something like this:
week 1 clomid 100mg nolva 40mg
week 2 clomid 50mg nolva 40mg
week 3-5 clomid 50mg nolva 20mg.

[HuntMan]

Question for everybody. I joined this site to seek some advice. I have been lifting weights for 8 years and have used supplements throughout. But i am currently getting ready to start my first real cycle of juice. I will be taking 1cc of Deca a week for ten weeks. I also have a good tribulus and a good estrogen blocker. The tribulus and estrogen blocker are legal store supplements and was wondering if it is a good idea to stack the deca with a test and if i did what would i take for a PCT?? More Test?? So my biggest question is does that seem like a good cylce.

[RANA]

Question for everybody. I joined this site to seek some advice. I have been lifting weights for 8 years and have used supplements throughout. But i am currently getting ready to start my first real cycle of juice. I will be taking 1cc of Deca a week for ten weeks. I also have a good tribulus and a good estrogen blocker. The tribulus and estrogen blocker are legal store supplements and was wondering if it is a good idea to stack the deca with a test and if i did what would i take for a PCT?? More Test?? So my biggest question is does that seem like a good cylce.

I would start your own thread and post all your stats that way you will receive the proper info dedicate to you and you only.

[Mazzive_T]

hunt, hit the search button buddy, ask away using key search words in there

If you still want your dick to work you should know, having researched of course, that deca is a 19-nor, which will shut you down, therefore you need test.

Basically if your going to run deca, run test too.

Also whats 1cc of deca? tell us it in mg/ml. And deca is only really good for joint lubrication unless its used above around 300mg.

What are your stats?


Tribulus does feck all, theres been no scientific studies to say trib raises human test levels.

And Test for PCT? Are you having a laugh?

Research Button Mate. And Quick.

[HuntMan]

Ok, Well like I said the reason why i joined this is to seek advice. and not people to be an asshole, you didn't know all you know at what point, but anyway What do you recommend then?? I don't have to money right now to get real Test e. so.... What do you recommend?

[Only_Patience]

Hunt I was in you shoes not more than a year or two ago.. The best advice I can give is to get your research done with ?'s and reading articles.. Then work on getting EVERYTHING you need for a cycle (gear,pct,pins) it is only smart to have it all before you begin.. Then workout your goals for a cycle.. Plan the cycle.. Diet in check.. Then begin! If it takes 2 months to get the money thats fine bc when you do it do it right you know better than half assin it and havin a limp dick

[green22]

clomid and nolva will be fine PCT. I woulnt bother with HCG

[Mazzive_T]

i wasnt intending to be an ass mate. Just dont wana c people finding things out when its too late, i.e. sides, like limp dick, testicular shrinkage, etc.

T.