Bush: Inaction on FISA endangers US

[SMCengineer]

I didnt imply that at all. I implied that the more we hamstring the govt the more likely that a terrorist plot will be successful.

I would agrue that the more lax we are about our own national defense, ie immigration policy, energy policies, and foreign policy the more likely it is that a terrorist plot would be succesful.

[thegodfather]

I didnt imply that at all. I implied that the more we hamstring the govt the more likely that a terrorist plot will be successful.

A change in our inflammatory foreign policy would significantly reduce the risk that people would even be motivated to carry out such attacks.

[Panzerfaust]

I didnt imply that at all. I implied that the more we hamstring the govt the more likely that a terrorist plot will be successful.

So when Americans expect their civil liberties to be protected as well as the Constitution, this is "hamstringing" the gov't ability to "protect" us?





Honeslty man, you really need to wakeup! There was tons of intellegience before 9/11 showing that an attack was imminent and how radical Muslims were being trained to fly airplanes here in the US, Bush went on vacation rather than deal with the issue. This is well documented!

Then again, by allowing the attack this created the opportunity for more governement control, of course all under the farce of "security" for US Citizens. There has always been a catastrophic occurence before any major conflict, they have all been manufactured to disguise the means by telling everyone how it is for our security, or to fight communism bla bla bla

WWII, Vietnam, 9/11 all follow the same layout. A "terrible" event occurs, the gov't then gets the publis to back their BS plans and next thing you know the war machine is in full affect.

[RA]

I would agrue that the more lax we are about our own national defense, ie immigration policy, energy policies, and foreign policy the more likely it is that a terrorist plot would be succesful.

Those things certainly need to be addressed, yes, Im not sure how that negates what I said.

A change in our inflammatory foreign policy would significantly reduce the risk that people would even be motivated to carry out such attacks.

Yes, if we pick up our chips and go home the nice, sweet terrorists will leave us alone. Oh wait, I thought thats what we did while Clinton was president.

So when Americans expect their civil liberties to be protected as well as the Constitution, this is "hamstringing" the gov't ability to "protect" us?

Make a lot of overseas calls and discuss guns, bombs, terrorist plots do ya mari? Because those are the ones getting taped.. If so I can see why your so against this.

[Panzerfaust]

Those things certainly need to be addressed, yes, Im not sure how that negates what I said.



Yes, if we pick up our chips and go home the nice, sweet terrorists will leave us alone. Oh wait, I thought thats what we did while Clinton was president.




Make a lot of overseas calls and discuss guns, bombs, terrorist plots do ya mari? Because those are the ones getting taped.. If so I can see why your so against this.

Yeah, those are the only ones being taped. You really are gullable aren't you.

Reality is gonna be hard to handle when you decide to wakeup and face it.

I'm sorry, I truly am. I should never question gov't authority, how dare I? The gov't is the most trustworthy entity in the world and I can sleep well at night knowing it is doing all it can to keep me and my family safe. It truly has our best interests at heart.

It would never do anything to trample my constitutional rights, it only protects them.

*finishes the rest of the kool-aid*

Good kool-aid..now I know why so many millions drink it.

[thegodfather]

Those things certainly need to be addressed, yes, Im not sure how that negates what I said.



Yes, if we pick up our chips and go home the nice, sweet terrorists will leave us alone. Oh wait, I thought thats what we did while Clinton was president.

We still had troops in Saudi Arabia, which they consider holy land. Maybe in order for you to realize it, the Chinese government should send a couple thousand troops to your Church and set up shop there, chill out for a little while, but they're only coming there to help you and tell you how to live your life more like them. Thats ok isn't it? I mean you woulnd't have a problem with it? Because thats our attitude towards other countries, conform, get in line, or get blown the f**k up...


Make a lot of overseas calls and discuss guns, bombs, terrorist plots do ya mari? Because those are the ones getting taped.. If so I can see why your so against this.

bold

[RA]

The Saudis said we could be there and the terrorists still attacked us. Im not seeing the logic.

bold

[RA]

Oh, I forgot, your the conspiracy guy arent you. Im watching you

Yeah, those are the only ones being taped. You really are gullable aren't you.

Reality is gonna be hard to handle when you decide to wakeup and face it.

I'm sorry, I truly am. I should never question gov't authority, how dare I? The gov't is the most trustworthy entity in the world and I can sleep well at night knowing it is doing all it can to keep me and my family safe. It truly has our best interests at heart.

It would never do anything to trample my constitutional rights, it only protects them.

*finishes the rest of the kool-aid*

Good kool-aid..now I know why so many millions drink it.

[soulstealer]

The Saudis said we could be there and the terrorists still attacked us. Im not seeing the logic.

Under that same logic then you would agree with every action the president has taken without any objection because of course the Americans are the ones that invaded IRAQ..No problem with our declining market cause of course your at fault as the Americans created the real estate bubble and of course you agree with torture cause the Americans torture...Its irresponsible to assume that the political governing body completely agree's with the all of the religious sects especially in the middle east...

[RA]

Under that same logic then you would agree with every action the president has taken without any objection because of course the Americans are the ones that invaded IRAQ..No problem with our declining market cause of course your at fault as the Americans created the real estate bubble and of course you agree with torture cause the Americans torture...Its irresponsible to assume that the political governing body completely agree's with the all of the religious sects especially in the middle east...

Sorry I dont do things according to what the jihadist nutcases think and neither should America.

[soulstealer]

Sorry I dont do things according to what the jihadist nutcases think and neither should America.

Thats fine... so your going to piss off the religous nut cases so they come an attack you and then be pissed off about them attacking you... Got it your definately an average american

[RA]

Thats fine... so your going to piss off the religous nut cases so they come an attack you and then be pissed off about them attacking you... Got it your definately an average american

#1 I take that as a compliment.

#2 Why would I do things according to terrorists who are spoiling for a fight? The United States has interests in the middle east so we have a base there. Sounds logical. Im not pissed off, I just think we need to exterminate the wackos.