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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooks View Post
    Speaking of Government intervention,,, looks like Ralph Nader is gonna run again in 2008.
    I know he is, but I don't know why he is. You would think he's not that foolish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pooks View Post
    Commodities have been up big lately... all across the board..

    You would think a lot of it would have to do with the crappy inflation numbers that came out the other day... but nothing out of norm has happened to the U.S dollar..

    so basically it's just overall loss of value to all major global currencies across the board, to commodities.

    or as the call it supply issues.
    but supply issue is vaguely disguised overspending issue.. which again equals inflation issue.. just on a global scale.
    I think it has a lot to do with the government subsidizing of corn. Why would farmers continue to grow wheat when they are rewarded for growing corn for ethanol purposes? If the government let the market decide what it needed than farmers would grow corn for ethanol if/when there was a demand for ethanol. When that demand was met farmers would stop growing it, but now the government forces a demand for ethanol and farmers stop producing wheat in order to produce corn. If there is a surplus of corn the government will just buy it up from the farmers. It doesn't make sense to me and it seems like we're just trying to appease "environmental lobbyist."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blome View Post
    I know he is, but I don't know why he is. You would think he's not that foolish.


    I think it has a lot to do with the government subsidizing of corn. Why would farmers continue to grow wheat when they are rewarded for growing corn for ethanol purposes? If the government let the market decide what it needed than farmers would grow corn for ethanol if/when there was a demand for ethanol. When that demand was met farmers would stop growing it, but now the government forces a demand for ethanol and farmers stop producing wheat in order to produce corn. If there is a surplus of corn the government will just buy it up from the farmers. It doesn't make sense to me and it seems like we're just trying to appease "environmental lobbyist."


    I'm a little surprised, that the price of WHEAT increased the most, and than followed by COAL.. (oil and ethanol get more attention) also that LUMBER lost value. (cause u hear all these losing forests stories)
    a pleasant surprise was the cost of meat staying the same... which with inflation included means cost of meats actually went down.

    (some of these vary depending on which exchange u look up the prices)

    TOP FIVE ON THIS LIST are..
    1. WHEAT!!! 101% increase in price from a year ago.
    2. COAL 71%
    3. ETHANOL 66%
    4. OIL 51%
    5. PROPANE 50%

    ENERGY
    ETHANOL up 66% in one year.
    http://quotes.ino.com/chart/history....=15&a=50&v=d12

    OIL up 51% in one year.
    http://quotes.ino.com/chart/history....=15&a=50&v=d12

    COAL up 71% in one year.
    http://quotes.ino.com/chart/history....=15&a=50&v=d12

    PROPANE up 50% in one year.
    http://quotes.ino.com/chart/history....=15&a=50&v=d12

    FOOD and FIBER

    SUGAR 22.5% in one year.
    MILK 26% in one year.
    ORANGE JUICE DOWN -28%
    LUMBER down -25%
    COTTON 23% in one year.

    GRAINS AND OIL SEEDS
    CORN 21% in one year
    OATS 47% increase!!
    RICE 43% increase
    Soybeans 44%
    WHEAT 101%
    http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=CBOT_W.H08&v=d12

    LIVESTOCK AND MEATS
    Cattle .. pretty much unchanged.
    Pork bellies.. pretty much the same
    Live Cattle.. down just a tad.

    METALS
    ALUMINUM 21% in one year.
    COPPER 41% in one year.
    GOLD 40% in one year

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