"9/11 Redux: 'Thousands of Aliens' in U.S. Flight Schools Illegally"

[Kärnfysikern]

I wish I could believe that to be so simplistic but I doubt that. Yes I do believe it is our foreign policies that ignite these vicious feelings. Yet fact of the matter is our foreign policies are perhaps not favorable elsewhere in the world. Theoretically shouldn't Pakistanis, N. Koreans, Japanese, Venezuelans, Cubans, Russians, Iranians be doing likewise? It just seems Arab Muslims that have hatred inbred and instilled in them. They are completely oblivious and brainwashed. Hence I am not sure that these arab terrorists would be ever so peaceful, pacifist and dignified to leave as alone IF we were to leave their land. Central Asia and middle east has always had barbaric attitude ever since the days of the Mongols, Gen***s Khans and the ruling Khans. Has the are evolved much since then? No. Also it is for them to look at their own governments if malcontent.

To be fair the middle east was more civilised than europe during the dark ages. Europe has for a very very long time been war torn and we could turn things around after ww2.

If germany could be de naizifed and japan turned into a peacefull country I dont se why the middle east can become a peacefull region. I dont think there is anyone in the world as fanatic as the japanese where. But as long as they have plenty of oil the dictators and religious assholes will have plenty of money to use to supress the people.

[Pooks]

If germany could be de naizifed and japan turned into a peacefull country I dont se why the middle east can become a peacefull region. I dont think there is anyone in the world as fanatic as the japanese where. But as long as they have plenty of oil the dictators and religious assholes will have plenty of money to use to supress the people.

It took pretty much complete annihilation of germany and Japan to establish this.. plus U.S military bases are still active in both nations.
+ a mutual fear of Communism and the Soviet Union.

[Prada]

But as long as they have plenty of oil the dictators and religious assholes will have plenty of money to use to supress the people.

Well thats where the problem is J. That is why I say they have to look at themselves. Get their freedom and get rid of these good for nothing "feudal system". I mean for the love of god Saudi monarchy is totally just fuc*ing their own people over...yet they want to annihilate Americans.

[Kärnfysikern]

Well thats where the problem is J. That is why I say they have to look at themselves. Get their freedom and get rid of these good for nothing "feudal system". I mean for the love of god Saudi monarchy is totally just fuc*ing their own people over...yet they want to annihilate Americans.

Well we are supporting all that by using oil, aslong as we are funding dictatorships we prevent people from becoming free. How much longer would the soviet union have lasted if they had a constant influx of western money?

[Prada]

Well we are supporting all that by using oil, aslong as we are funding dictatorships we prevent people from becoming free. How much longer would the soviet union have lasted if they had a constant influx of western money?

Ahhh yes and there is where we may be part of the problem as well. Being complacent just since we have cordial relations.

I'm exited about Iraq and Pakistan if things keep going positively we can have role model democratic Muslim nations. Secular and developing nations. Turkey, Iraq, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc. Are the Arab monarchs going to cede authority? I doubt it. Revolution? Perhaps.

[Kärnfysikern]

Ahhh yes and there is where we may be part of the problem as well. Being complacent just since we have cordial relations.

Id say we are beeing complacent because we have no chooise. Just like many EU countries are now kissing Putins feet because we need the gas.
Its disgusting how for instance Gerhard Schröder during his political life opposed nuclear power and after he resigned as Chancellor he started working for Gazprom as head of the new gas pipeline project, no conflict of interest there at all . Its obvious that fossil fuel companies/countries has a strong grip on us. How many politicians in europe is on a payroll?

When OPEC say jump the west asks how high.

I'm exited about Iraq and Pakistan if things keep going positively we can have role model democratic Muslim nations. Secular and developing nations. Turkey, Iraq, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc. Are the Arab monarchs going to cede authority? I doubt it. Revolution? Perhaps.

It would be great if it goes that way. EU should step into Iraq.

[Prada]

Id say we are beeing complacent because we have no chooise. Just like many EU countries are now kissing Putins feet because we need the gas.
Its disgusting how for instance Gerhard Schröder during his political life opposed nuclear power and after he resigned as Chancellor he started working for Gazprom as head of the new gas pipeline project, no conflict of interest there at all . Its obvious that fossil fuel companies/countries has a strong grip on us. How many politicians in europe is on a payroll?

When OPEC say jump the west asks how high.



It would be great if it goes that way. EU should step into Iraq.

Well perhaps if Putin has the armed forces equivalent to Azerbaijan perhaps a few world leaders would pay him a nice "diplomatic" visit. Saddam was defiant and well he is gone. Iran is defiant and guess what, he is poster boy for axis of evil. It was a toss up...Iraq or Iran. I've always stated that the caspian sea is a strategic location and Russia....well I just cant see it allowing the US in their immediate backyard. Its always been like that thoughout history. Persia, Afghanistan and the Khyber pass...the gateway to the India and the east. Today add the fact of oil around the caspian.

[Kärnfysikern]

Well perhaps if Putin has the armed forces equivalent to Azerbaijan perhaps a few world leaders would pay him a nice "diplomatic" visit. Saddam was defiant and well he is gone. Iran is defiant and guess what, he is poster boy for axis of evil. It was a toss up...Iraq or Iran. I've always stated that the caspian sea is a strategic location and Russia....well I just cant see it allowing the US in their immediate backyard. Its always been like that thoughout history. Persia, Afghanistan and the Khyber pass...the gateway to the India and the east. Today add the fact of oil around the caspian.

Oil and gas, the root of all problems of today. Empowers dictators and weaken democracies.