And u think u know the TRUTH!

[pumpd4lif]

www.ZeitGeistmovie.com

I urge everybody to download this and burn it,give it to ur friends bring it to everyones attention,it is sad that the country we believe in as free has been dead for years!Please try to discount facts,prove it wrong,U CANT!!!nobody is stupid enough to not believe.

It is a few ours long,and please dont get caught up in the begining(about religion) watch parts 2 and 3 aswell!!!!But by all means watch the whole thing!!

i couldnt find it at first cause the net has been saturated with links name the same go to mini nova.com it will take about 30 min to download the whole thing.

[UberSteroids]

Yup, I've seen it.

Great video!

[shifty_git]

Im from the UK and ive watched the whole thing... Like you say Pumpd.. how can you deny it?

Links our government 2... the whole system takes the p!ss out of us.. we need change..

[pumpd4lif]

Im from the UK and ive watched the whole thing... Like you say Pumpd.. how can you deny it?

Links our government 2... the whole system takes the p!ss out of us.. we need change..

i am going to burn and burn and burn as many dvd,s as i can and just hand them out i dont care who watches them i feel so terrible for all the people in the world.the last few weeks of my life i have been making huge changes(unfortunalty none in the gym ) the way i view people,the way i think,our world as we know it is a total lie.I am just glad i started to change before i saw this vid so there is no mistaking my new found gratitude for life.
we all have to help others,that is the only true form of humanity left in this world.

[soccer#3]

i've seen it. a must see for anyone who hasnt

[Amorphic]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=314705

this was my thread i started on the movie as well....for anyone that wants to take a look

[Amorphic]

i am going to burn and burn and burn as many dvd,s as i can and just hand them out i dont care who watches them i feel so terrible for all the people in the world.the last few weeks of my life i have been making huge changes(unfortunalty none in the gym ) the way i view people,the way i think,our world as we know it is a total lie.I am just glad i started to change before i saw this vid so there is no mistaking my new found gratitude for life.
we all have to help others,that is the only true form of humanity left in this world.

nice bro, its a good thing when people wake up in this way, i wish more people thought like this.

[pumpd4lif]

nice bro, its a good thing when people wake up in this way, i wish more people thought like this.

Ya ,well i know i am going to send the link to the movie to every recieving email i can get my hands on .i have already sent it to several groups ranging from fema to us.gov u name it.It will only take one person with the right amount of power the right amount of connections to bring this to the publics eye.Just imagine what would happen if this was shown on tv.I am disturbed by the whole thing.

Ron paul isnt so stupid after all now is he people.And to think irs agents stopped paying taxes cause they themselvels couldnt justify it.And the sad thing is there really isnt a safe government in the world.

[pumpd4lif]

Just imagine if everybody on this site burned one dvd and gave it to one person,WOW u do the math

[Atomini]

You need to watch the movie America: Freedom To Fascism as well (you can find the full version on google video I think).

[solid-d]

Just watched this 2 hr movie and shict that is F up. I seen loose change on 911 a while back but this is even more fuked.. I gotta show this to others..

Oh, where I can get one of them chips in the end... Id like one please.

[Dangercat00]

I really don't feel like watching a 2 hour video and risking that its bullshit...can someone just give me the gist of it so I know whether or not to watch it?

[tadpoleboyy]

if you have an open mind, this will not be a waste of your time. Even if you dont beleive it, its good to think outside the media box

[thegodfather]

I really don't feel like watching a 2 hour video and risking that its bullshit...can someone just give me the gist of it so I know whether or not to watch it?

You would preferr to sit on your sofa at 6pm everynight and tune into Fox News networks latest propagandized bullshit that they cram into the simple minds of Americans? Do yourself a HUGE favor, and watch the fuc*in movie..

[Amorphic]

You would preferr to sit on your sofa at 6pm everynight and tune into Fox News networks latest propagandized bullshit that they cram into the simple minds of Americans? Do yourself a HUGE favor, and watch the fuc*in movie..

lol, i dont think ive ever seen anyone articulate things so perfectly as you do godfather, i love it.

[Atomini]

I love Zeitgeist but the only thing I feel about Zeitgeist is bullshit is the first part about religion. They literally provide no references or sources to back up their claims about how every single other religious belief has exact similar Jesus-figures. I went and did some research myself to see if these things are infact true and I couldn't find these things out, and I was getting conflicting information with what Zeitgeist was telling us in the first part.

Everything else about the movie is excellent though and is backed-up and supported by various audio clips, video feeds, references to documents and books that you can look up yourself, etc. But if anyone actually believed anything in the first part of the video, you should reconsider and do research on your own behalf. I do agree however that religion has been used as an excuse to control people, and therefore that is why I am against organized religion (though I am not anti-religion itself, just anti-organized religion), but the claims made in the first part are WAY out of whack.

[RA]

Ive seen parts of that before. Pretty good propaganda vid..

[pumpd4lif]

I love Zeitgeist but the only thing I feel about Zeitgeist is bullshit is the first part about religion. They literally provide no references or sources to back up their claims about how every single other religious belief has exact similar Jesus-figures. I went and did some research myself to see if these things are infact true and I couldn't find these things out, and I was getting conflicting information with what Zeitgeist was telling us in the first part.

Everything else about the movie is excellent though and is backed-up and supported by various audio clips, video feeds, references to documents and books that you can look up yourself, etc. But if anyone actually believed anything in the first part of the video, you should reconsider and do research on your own behalf. I do agree however that religion has been used as an excuse to control people, and therefore that is why I am against organized religion (though I am not anti-religion itself, just anti-organized religion), but the claims made in the first part are WAY out of whack.

i beg to differ...all the info is written and documented in other religions and other culters,unlike most parts of religion.As of most of our language the words
derive from ancient words and meanings.I dont think they were trying to discount religion in the documentary just trying to show u how it is used against us to make us beleive things that are untrue.i thought it was very interesting how so many parts of historical religions and beleifs are all tied together by smiliar meanings and beliefs even know they are centuries apart.

IMO!

[pumpd4lif]

Ive seen parts of that before. Pretty good propaganda vid..

Thats the thing this one,unlike the other 911 and video,s alike is far from propaganda.The things that they show u arent questions they are facts.U should probabably watch the 2nd and 3rd parts again.

I mean dont u find it a bit odd about the FACT that 12 outa of the 19 terrorists that were supposed to have died in those plains are some how still alive?Is this an act of god?That isnt propaganda,that is fact.But people will believe what they want and unfortunatly that is why we are in this situation in the first place.

[rockinred]

i beg to differ...all the info is written and documented in other religions and other culters,unlike most parts of religion.As of most of our language the words
derive from ancient words and meanings.I dont think they were trying to discount religion in the documentary just trying to show u how it is used against us to make us beleive things that are untrue.i thought it was very interesting how so many parts of historical religions and beleifs are all tied together by smiliar meanings and beliefs even know they are centuries apart.

IMO!

That is the part Atomini is saying to research... for anyone that has researched theology,religion and origin, it is really not a great mystery why the religions relate in one form or another. All stem from 2-3 main belief systems and have varied and branched off from there (Judaism = Muslims, Christians,etc... Hinduism = Bhuddism, Jainism, etc). While now, you see all the current beliefs and religions, they all actually derived from a single source if you look back far enough.. so really if someone tries to twist that part like Zietgliest.. then you can make the case that they are actually the ones who are not informed properly on that particular subject.

So all I am saying is the film has good angles and bad ones... everyone should look at all of it open mindedly and not jump ship on anything right away... critical thought process.

I will also add that the media puts a twist on many, many subjects and that is a fact. don't trust the media as far as you can throw it.

[pumpd4lif]

That is the part Atomini is saying to research... for anyone that has researched theology,religion and origin, it is really not a great mystery why the religions relate in one form or another. All stem from 2-3 main belief systems and have varied and branched off from there (Judaism = Muslims, Christians,etc... Hinduism = Bhuddism, Jainism, etc). While now, you see all the current beliefs and religions, they all actually derived from a single source if you look back far enough.. so really if someone tries to twist that part like Zietgliest.. then you can make the case that they are actually the ones who are not informed properly on that particular subject.

So all I am saying is the film has good angles and bad ones... everyone should look at all of it open mindedly and not jump ship on anything right away... critical thought process.

i paid more attention to the government side of the video.They were the facts i am really concerned about.Religion is and always should be about faith nothing more and nothing less.With out faith we really have nothing.Humanity as it is today is failing,all we can do is help as many people in anyway we can.All this money we spend on war could help the world so much in as many ways as there are dollars spent in and on and made in war,and that is sad

[Pooks]

i paid more attention to the government side of the video.They were the facts i am really concerned about.Religion is and always should be about faith nothing more and nothing less.With out faith we really have nothing.Humanity as it is today is failing,all we can do is help as many people in anyway we can.All this money we spend on war could help the world so much in as many ways as there are dollars spent in and on and made in war,and that is sad

Hmm not sure what u mean.. like give away the money for free?

The money should had been spent at home to increase peace-time trade, and economy... more fancy shoes, cars, other things people enjoy and want etc.....

that the path of... U buy fancy shoes ---> shoe maker makes money, -----> pays his employee more money or expands his business ------> shoe makers buys a nice suit -----> suit makers pays his employees more money, expands business and buys a new car... etc...

peacetime economy thrives... as long the gov't isn't stealing our money thru taxes and socialist communist ideas that is..

anyways...

War time economy...

We blow up a bridge with a missile -----> new missile needs to be built, hire employees, expand production -----> those workers buy new cars etc..

the money still goes around but in different industries.. the shoe maker might go out of business, cause everyone is buying guns instead of shoes etc...

What am i getting too...
umm oh yah...

U give money for free to homeless people... homeless people use the money to buy food and alcohol.. food and alcohol business booms...wants to hire more employees.. but the homeless guy just walks right pass the now hiring sign, n he dont care.. he gets money for free...

u run out of money u cant give it to the poor anymore..
the poor guy never got a job or educated..and alcohol business shrinks down, and no longer wants to hire the homeless guy...
Once u're poor he is automatically without a life line, goes back to eating bark and dirt.

[pumpd4lif]

Hmm not sure what u mean.. like give away the money for free?

The money should had been spent at home to increase peace-time trade, and economy... more fancy shoes, cars, other things people enjoy and want etc.....

that the path of... U buy fancy shoes ---> shoe maker makes money, -----> pays his employee more money or expands his business ------> shoe makers buys a nice suit -----> suit makers pays his employees more money, expands business and buys a new car... etc...

peacetime economy thrives... as long the gov't isn't stealing our money thru taxes and socialist communist ideas that is..

anyways...

War time economy...

We blow up a bridge with a missile -----> new missile needs to be built, hire employees, expand production -----> those workers buy new cars etc..

the money still goes around but in different industries.. the shoe maker might go out of business, cause everyone is buying guns instead of shoes etc...

What am i getting too...
umm oh yah...

U give money for free to homeless people... homeless people use the money to buy food and alcohol.. food and alcohol business booms...wants to hire more employees.. but the homeless guy just walks right pass the now hiring sign, n he dont care.. he gets money for free...

u run out of money u cant give it to the poor anymore..
the poor guy never got a job or educated..and alcohol business shrinks down, and no longer wants to hire the homeless guy...
Once u're poor he is automatically without a life line, goes back to eating bark and dirt.

Well i was leaning more towards stopping genicide in sudan or maybe helping battered women ,helping people that want help.Not those that would rather sit in shit and be drunk in a box on the street.Maybe children that are without food and shelter because our country would rather work towards a more corrupt 1 world economic power. Once again that type of ignorant thinking is why this country is the way it is.But that is only my opinion.

Once the power of love becomes stronger then the love of power will the world finally be at peace.but said to say none of us will see that in this lifetime.

[Pooks]

Well i was leaning more towards stopping genicide in sudan or maybe helping battered women ,helping people that want help.Not those that would rather sit in shit and be drunk in a box on the street.Maybe children that are without food and shelter because our country would rather work towards a more corrupt 1 world economic power. Once again that type of ignorant thinking is why this country is the way it is.But that is only my opinion.

Once the power of love becomes stronger then the love of power will the world finally be at peace.but said to say none of us will see that in this lifetime.

Bomb the gov't of Sudan.
I'm down.. lets do it!
than the African Union can oversee the peace hopefully.. but doubt it.

not sure about the battered woman.. thats usually an inter-marital problem, between 2 adults.. that are dealing with issues. if 2 violent dumb people get together, things are bound to go wrong.. but i'm sure they still might be happier together than if alone

[rockinred]

Well i was leaning more towards stopping genicide in sudan or maybe helping battered women ,helping people that want help.Not those that would rather sit in shit and be drunk in a box on the street.Maybe children that are without food and shelter because our country would rather work towards a more corrupt 1 world economic power. Once again that type of ignorant thinking is why this country is the way it is.But that is only my opinion.

Once the power of love becomes stronger then the love of power will the world finally be at peace.but said to say none of us will see that in this lifetime.

I like your statement... now your speaking with heart...

[rockinred]

Hmm not sure what u mean.. like give away the money for free?

The money should had been spent at home to increase peace-time trade, and economy... more fancy shoes, cars, other things people enjoy and want etc.....

that the path of... U buy fancy shoes ---> shoe maker makes money, -----> pays his employee more money or expands his business ------> shoe makers buys a nice suit -----> suit makers pays his employees more money, expands business and buys a new car... etc...

peacetime economy thrives... as long the gov't isn't stealing our money thru taxes and socialist communist ideas that is..

anyways...

War time economy...

We blow up a bridge with a missile -----> new missile needs to be built, hire employees, expand production -----> those workers buy new cars etc..

the money still goes around but in different industries.. the shoe maker might go out of business, cause everyone is buying guns instead of shoes etc...

What am i getting too...
umm oh yah...

U give money for free to homeless people... homeless people use the money to buy food and alcohol.. food and alcohol business booms...wants to hire more employees.. but the homeless guy just walks right pass the now hiring sign, n he dont care.. he gets money for free...

u run out of money u cant give it to the poor anymore..
the poor guy never got a job or educated..and alcohol business shrinks down, and no longer wants to hire the homeless guy...
Once u're poor he is automatically without a life line, goes back to eating bark and dirt.

pooks, now your talking about economics and how the dollar turns and circulates... but, I agree with Pumpd on what he is saying about the different focus items... what it really boils down to is the money is circulating but with a better result... can you really name a good reason to spend money or energy for that matter on something like the current war above helping battered families, and women(if we use this angle)?

[pumpd4lif]

pooks, now your talking about economics and how the dollar turns and circulates... but, I agree with Pumpd on what he is saying about the different focus items... what it really boils down to is the money is circulating but with a better result... can you really name a good reason to spend money or energy for that matter on something like the current war above helping battered families, and women(if we use this angle)?

Helping people in general,i mean i am know do gooder by know means but i am changing my ways and not because of this film neither i have started to transform my way of thinkng in the last few months and i am glad i have ...but rest assured our govrnment is using innocent lives to further its agenda hmm proud to be an american?..I think not.

And tx for the cosign rockinred

[SL63]

This movie is retard.

You're telling me the Government is killing millions of people through war and terrorism so that a handful of guys can make billions and billions of dollars?


Ok so now that these old fuks have billions and billions they got about 20 years left to live.. What now they just blow it all on hookers and Edited. Read the board rules. No rec drug references.

Im sure there is some questionable shit going on in the world, but to say that all this shit that happens is planned and executed all to put money in a few guys pockets...?? You guys need to get out more often or im going to turn off your computer chip in your head and you will drop dead on ur computer!

[pumpd4lif]

This movie is retard.

You're telling me the Government is killing millions of people through war and terrorism so that a handful of guys can make billions and billions of dollars?


Ok so now that these old fuks have billions and billions they got about 20 years left to live.. What now they just blow it all on hookers and Edited. Read the board rules. No rec drug references.

Im sure there is some questionable shit going on in the world, but to say that all this shit that happens is planned and executed all to put money in a few guys pockets...?? You guys need to get out more often or im going to turn off your computer chip in your head and you will drop dead on ur computer!

Did u even watch the whole thing what u are saying i would expect from a teenager.U cant be that closed minded...so man valid points it is insane.and all u have to say is what i quoted?There is an ultimate agenda my young friend. u should watch it with someone that has a little bit of knowlege about history and why this country was founded and what htey were fighting to avoid,and it all hapenned anyway.I sure hope u dont view life the same way u viewed this movie!this is just the type of ignorance our govrnment wants.Tell me if i am wrong u cant be more then 20 22 years of age maybe?

[Atomini]

This movie is retard.

You're telling me the Government is killing millions of people through war and terrorism so that a handful of guys can make billions and billions of dollars?


Ok so now that these old fuks have billions and billions they got about 20 years left to live.. What now they just blow it all on hookers and heroin?

Im sure there is some questionable shit going on in the world, but to say that all this shit that happens is planned and executed all to put money in a few guys pockets...?? You guys need to get out more often or im going to turn off your computer chip in your head and you will drop dead on ur computer!

If you can't see this shit happening infront of your eyes every day, then you are blind. You're going to be the ones who will realize it when it's too late.

These "old fuks" you talk about don't give a shit about money. THey just want control and power. Money for them is only a means to do so. These people already have all the money in the world they could ever need.

You don't think the government isn't killing millions in order to further it's own hidden agendas? I suggest you do some serious research. Here is but one of MANY examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Alot of stuff like this is documented and to say that none of it is true is just yourself REFUSING to believe what you really know is the truth. Often times when people are freightened about something, they choose to refuse to believe it just to comfort themselves. Welcome to the real world, pal.

[Pooks]

pooks, now your talking about economics and how the dollar turns and circulates... but, I agree with Pumpd on what he is saying about the different focus items... what it really boils down to is the money is circulating but with a better result... can you really name a good reason to spend money or energy for that matter on something like the current war above helping battered families, and women(if we use this angle)?

Cause they have to help themselves...

I mean ok their families can help them and buy them new shoes, or help pay for a myspace account to get them hooked up with better people..

Ok, go help your family, friends and loved ones .. I agree with that.
and in turn if u're kind your future family members will be kind to u too, or friends etc..

thats cool.. thats proper circulation of money...

What I fear from this video, is that it might be a cloaked communism pushing propaganda video..

right from the start I got that feeling, when they were trying to make us feel small like ants, (STRIPPING AWAY OUR NEEDS AND PERSONALITY) by going into the universe and all that, and than I think they showed germs or bacteria or something, making us connect to that as the human race..something like that..

I didn't watch the rest of the video..
but yah help your friends and family in need, circulate the dollar in a good way YES...FREEDOM

collecting putting our money into a fund, overlooked by gov't and beuracracy, geared towards further spreading communism onto others BAD = SLAVERy

[pumpd4lif]

Cause they have to help themselves...

I mean ok their families can help them and buy them new shoes, or help pay for a myspace account to get them hooked up with better people..

Ok, go help your family, friends and loved ones .. I agree with that.
and in turn if u're kind your future family members will be kind to u too, or friends etc..

thats cool.. thats proper circulation of money...

What I fear from this video, is that it might be a cloaked communism pushing propaganda video..

right from the start I got that feeling, when they were trying to make us feel small like ants, (STRIPPING AWAY OUR NEEDS AND PERSONALITY) by going into the universe and all that, and than I think they showed germs or bacteria or something, making us connect to that as the human race..something like that..

I didn't watch the rest of the video..
but yah help your friends and family in need, circulate the dollar in a good way YES...FREEDOM

collecting putting our money into a fund, overlooked by gov't and beuracracy, geared towards further spreading communism onto others BAD = SLAVERy

Really?U didnt watch the rest of the video...u are robbing urself my fiend.if u want to get rite down to it skip to the second part and watch it thru and then make the statements that u are making.U are commenting on something u havent even seen!Please watch the video and then u might understand more of what i am saying.

[DSM4Life]

Watch this or Boyz Gone Wild ......hmm tough call.

[SaSqUaDgE]

hmm watched this very interesting