is sut worth it?

[lex57]

Maybe cuz your wrong???

At some point injection=removal and levels plateau....if you don't want any fluctuation than your going to have to stop metabolism...IE DEAD MOFO...or start a constant infusion...if you like walkin around with a pin in your leg....plus the more inj/week the greater your chance of infection/nerve damage/ injecting a vessel ect....

The point is to be within the Therapeutic window....to much = more sides.....too little = no clinical effect

So increase the dose.....Want higher blood levels put more in...

Whats the Half-life of those compounds?

ok here, Propionate 2 days,Phenylpropionate 4.5 days,Isocaproate 9 days ,Decanoate 15 days these are the 4 in sust. now Enanthate is 10.5 days. Cypionate is 12 days .

so by your rationale sust would be ideal every 15 days? test e every 11 days and test c every 12 days. and your chances of infection and nerve damage are greater? i dont think either one is greater if you use the proper technique than if you shoot once per week or once per day. and going into a blood vessel is not an issue unless you do not aspirate. in which case it will be the same also due to poor technique. i think you are trying to apply medical science to bodybuilding science and it is not working out for you. and you still avoided my question earlier about what the drawback would be to inject 0.5 ml eod. besides what you think about nerve damage, infection or bloood vessel injections. if thats it then there really is no difference. so if you were to take inject winny how often would you do it?

[Rookie1974]

ok here, Propionate 2 days,Phenylpropionate 4.5 days,Isocaproate 9 days ,Decanoate 15 days these are the 4 in sust. now Enanthate is 10.5 days. Cypionate is 12 days .

so by your rationale sust would be ideal every 15 days? test e every 11 days and test c every 12 days. and your chances of infection and nerve damage are greater? i dont think either one is greater if you use the proper technique than if you shoot once per week or once per day. and going into a blood vessel is not an issue unless you do not aspirate. in which case it will be the same also due to poor technique. i think you are trying to apply medical science to bodybuilding science and it is not working out for you. and you still avoided my question earlier about what the drawback would be to inject 0.5 ml eod. besides what you think about nerve damage, infection or bloood vessel injections. if thats it then there really is no difference. so if you were to take inject winny how often would you do it?

every time you break the skin you risk all the above.....the more you break the skin the higher your risk.

Yea check your pharmacopeia.....TE and TC Every 2-4 weeks now why would that be?

Want higher levels inj more at each half-life or inject more often. The problem with option 2 is you'll have no idea what dose your on. Unless someone has the clearance calcs for TE or TC

[lex57]

every time you break the skin you risk all the above.....the more you break the skin the higher your risk.

Yea check your pharmacopeia.....TE and TC Every 2-4 weeks now why would that be?

Want higher levels inj more at each half-life or inject more often. The problem with option 2 is you'll have no idea what dose your on. Unless someone has the clearance calcs for TE or TC

like i said i am not saying you are wrong in the whole sense. but you are speaking of sustanon as it pertains to something as treating andropause. but here we are not treating andropause. we are looking ideal levels to acheive the sustained test levels for bodybuilding. not to be able to get wood. and if you are now saying that test e and cyp should be shot every 2-4 weeks you are just weakening your argument. because you cannot convince anyone on this board of that. sorry. and i understand anytime you break the skin it is an oportunistic chance for infection, however with proper technique the chances should be relatively the same. maybe one time in a thousand for instance. that number wont change. everytime you stick its a thousand to 1. (just using it for instance.) whether it be daily or weekly. thats where i am coming from. i guess we can just assume from this all that you shoot sust once a week and the rest of us would probably shoot eod. no big deal i guess. i am out. later guys. good topic though.

[Rookie1974]

like i said i am not saying you are wrong in the whole sense. but you are speaking of sustanon as it pertains to something as treating andropause. but here we are not treating andropause. we are looking ideal levels to acheive the sustained test levels for bodybuilding. not to be able to get wood. and if you are now saying that test e and cyp should be shot every 2-4 weeks you are just weakening your argument. because you cannot convince anyone on this board of that. sorry. and i understand anytime you break the skin it is an oportunistic chance for infection, however with proper technique the chances should be relatively the same. maybe one time in a thousand for instance. that number wont change. everytime you stick its a thousand to 1. (just using it for instance.) whether it be daily or weekly. thats where i am coming from. i guess we can just assume from this all that you shoot sust once a week and the rest of us would probably shoot eod. no big deal i guess. i am out. later guys. good topic though.

could shoot smaller doses EOD but why??? Not taking advantage of the esters.

To maintain your plateu Test E Test C should be shot at every half-life....as with any drug....want higher levels shoot more per halflife.