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    Quote Originally Posted by "Narkissos" View Post
    great thread idea Tai
    thanks.. beast inspired me

    Quote Originally Posted by Elexecution View Post
    Does dostinex at the normal dose hinder your gains more or less than letro at say .50mg/ed?
    neither really cause any Hinderence in gains..
    letro makes me dry, loss of libido (not impotent though), and slightly lethargic.
    caber makes me moody as fvck, makes sex very unsatisfying- that euphoria i get post climax doesnt seem to really hang around its ilke OK i just had sex lets go again.. maybe this time i will want icecream afterwards.. but no.. no icecream urge.. beast had a lil ordeal w/ caber that i gave him some ideas on, it'd be nice if he could shine some light on how it affected him when he played around/ommited his dostinex/caber dosing.

    personally i dont use any ancillaries unless I KNOW im seeing symptoms of some sort of progesterone/gyno/prolactin issues. otherwise i find it MUCH MUCH more ideal to manipulate my estrogen through my test dosage (which is my primary aromatizing compound.)

    NOTE: i had all these copied and pasted in orderly fasion answered and everything but some how i fvckered it up (imagine that) and now i gotta sift back through and find the Q's i over looked (fvcking microsoft word)

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    thanks.. beast inspired me


    neither really cause any Hinderence in gains..
    letro makes me dry, loss of libido (not impotent though), and slightly lethargic.
    caber makes me moody as fvck, makes sex very unsatisfying- that euphoria i get post climax doesnt seem to really hang around its ilke OK i just had sex lets go again.. maybe this time i will want icecream afterwards.. but no.. no icecream urge.. beast had a lil ordeal w/ caber that i gave him some ideas on, it'd be nice if he could shine some light on how it affected him when he played around/ommited his dostinex/caber dosing.

    personally i dont use any ancillaries unless I KNOW im seeing symptoms of some sort of progesterone/gyno/prolactin issues. otherwise i find it MUCH MUCH more ideal to manipulate my estrogen through my test dosage (which is my primary aromatizing compound.)

    NOTE: i had all these copied and pasted in orderly fasion answered and everything but some how i fvckered it up (imagine that) and now i gotta sift back through and find the Q's i over looked (fvcking microsoft word)
    what are you talking about now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    thanks.. beast inspired me


    neither really cause any Hinderence in gains..
    letro makes me dry, loss of libido (not impotent though), and slightly lethargic.
    caber makes me moody as fvck, makes sex very unsatisfying- that euphoria i get post climax doesnt seem to really hang around its ilke OK i just had sex lets go again.. maybe this time i will want icecream afterwards.. but no.. no icecream urge.. beast had a lil ordeal w/ caber that i gave him some ideas on, it'd be nice if he could shine some light on how it affected him when he played around/ommited his dostinex/caber dosing.

    personally i dont use any ancillaries unless I KNOW im seeing symptoms of some sort of progesterone/gyno/prolactin issues. otherwise i find it MUCH MUCH more ideal to manipulate my estrogen through my test dosage (which is my primary aromatizing compound.)

    NOTE: i had all these copied and pasted in orderly fasion answered and everything but some how i fvckered it up (imagine that) and now i gotta sift back through and find the Q's i over looked (fvcking microsoft word)
    Hey buddy. Yes I experienced pretty bad mood swings and feelings of axiety and depression on this last run of tren. This was my first run of Tren E (i have run tren A a couple of times before with no real sides that i noticed).
    Following your advice I lowered the test dosage to 250mg EW. The tren was run at 400mg EW. I dropped the caber. I was also running drol 50mg ED and GH with either IGF or slin PWO. After making the changes you suggested I started to feel less moody after about 4 days. My anxiety decreased. One of the main problems i had is that I am OCD which i can normally control through visualization however It was getting way off the scale on this cycle. This too began to improve after the changes were made. I have finished the cycle this week and i will be back on TRT dosing. I will not be running tren again. It didnt do anything for me that deca couldn't do but the sides IMO were not worth it. Even after changes were made they improved but i am still a little moody and anxious. Also experienced night sweats and insomnia this run which i have never had before. Do you think its possible that the ester could make any difference to tren sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001 View Post
    Hey buddy. Yes I experienced pretty bad mood swings and feelings of axiety and depression on this last run of tren. This was my first run of Tren E (i have run tren A a couple of times before with no real sides that i noticed).
    Following your advice I lowered the test dosage to 250mg EW. The tren was run at 400mg EW. I dropped the caber. I was also running drol 50mg ED and GH with either IGF or slin PWO. After making the changes you suggested I started to feel less moody after about 4 days. My anxiety decreased. One of the main problems i had is that I am OCD which i can normally control through visualization however It was getting way off the scale on this cycle. This too began to improve after the changes were made. I have finished the cycle this week and i will be back on TRT dosing. I will not be running tren again. It didnt do anything for me that deca couldn't do but the sides IMO were not worth it. Even after changes were made they improved but i am still a little moody and anxious. Also experienced night sweats and insomnia this run which i have never had before. Do you think its possible that the ester could make any difference to tren sides?
    thanks again for chiming in.
    the only thing i can think of is... the ester made the tren stay in ur system longer so each administration would stack on its self causing ur overal plasma levels to be higher that you planned. trensomnia is a DEVIL and a HALF... absolute worst side i have ever encountered on any drug.. as long as im below 400mg/wk of tren im fine.. when i exceed 400mg i get NO sleep whats so ever which makes me bitchy as hell.

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