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    Tai what is your opinion on this Deca cycle:

    250mg Sust 1-14
    400mg Deca 1-12

    vs

    500mg Test E 1-16
    400mg EQ 1-14

    ?

    I think I know your answer and with Test/Deca would A-Dex .25mg ED be suitable or should Femera be utilized? I know that you need some estrogen and a anti-e might knock it too low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Ro View Post
    Tai what is your opinion on this Deca cycle:

    250mg Sust 1-14
    400mg Deca 1-12

    vs

    500mg Test E 1-16
    400mg EQ 1-14

    ?

    I think I know your answer and with Test/Deca would A-Dex .25mg ED be suitable or should Femera be utilized? I know that you need some estrogen and a anti-e might knock it too low.
    Man, I've had several friends take EQ all at 600mg and they all seemed to have minimal gains. If I were to take it, it would be 600-800 range..

    I like the first cycle better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Ro View Post
    Tai what is your opinion on this Deca cycle:

    250mg Sust 1-14
    400mg Deca 1-12

    vs

    500mg Test E 1-16
    400mg EQ 1-14

    ?

    I think I know your answer and with Test/Deca would A-Dex .25mg ED be suitable or should Femera be utilized? I know that you need some estrogen and a anti-e might knock it too low.
    actually ... i wouldnt take any ancillary with the test deca cycle, i'd keep arimidex or letro on hand incase signs of gyno/estrogen related sides emerge but i doubt there will be any prolactin/progesterone issues since ur deca dose i so low and ur test dose (your primary aromatizing compound) is even lower.

    EQ is pointless IMO unless your precomp and dying to increase your vascularity. as for gains it can suck mah balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    actually ... i wouldnt take any ancillary with the test deca cycle, i'd keep arimidex or letro on hand incase signs of gyno/estrogen related sides emerge but i doubt there will be any prolactin/progesterone issues since ur deca dose i so low and ur test dose (your primary aromatizing compound) is even lower.

    EQ is pointless IMO unless your precomp and dying to increase your vascularity. as for gains it can suck mah balls.
    Thanks Tai, what type of dosage would you suggest with the Deca in that hypothetical cycle?

    And what other compounds would you add in it?

    I may regret asking this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Ro View Post
    Thanks Tai, what type of dosage would you suggest with the Deca in that hypothetical cycle?

    And what other compounds would you add in it?

    I may regret asking this one.
    deca is great because you can see very noticeable gains on 200mg/wk.. but you can also ramp it up to like 1g/wk and still have hardly any sides (im talkin bout androgenic sides- not the prolactin/progesteron but those are easily controlled through your test dose)

    so optimum dosing price wise i'd say 400-600mg/wk
    test around 200mg/wk

    then a DHT: if u got $$ i'd run masteron through the cycle say 300-400mg/wk or so
    if ur going all out bulker go w/ drol (fun DHT to run w/ deca)

    if your really wanting to get froggy and cant afford to run a good duration of masteron then i would definitely do an oral DHT in the beginning first 4-5weeks then another oral DHT at the end of the cycle right up to pct

    here’s couple examples and my last one is going to seem lil unorthodox but its probably my favorite

    1:
    Front load Deca 800mg on your first week either all in one go or split up into 2 administrations throughout the first week.
    dont worry bout frontloading testE- ur just using it to keep ur wee'wee working so just stick w/ normal TRT dosing of around 200mw/k [you shouldn’t have a single issue libido wise since test any injectable is in your system right away... most people just have to wait weeks on end to see results because it has to stack on its self + it has to be in your system for a good duration while you train and diet]
    wks 2-11 400mg/deca/wk
    wks 1-12 200-250mg/testE/wk

    2:
    same deca and test dosing but you could run win @ around 50mg ED for last 7 weeks. So basically from weeks 7-14 you would be administering win at 50mg ED which would work very synergistically with deca to add nice LBM to your physique and since its ran right up to PCT (Note: the increase in free test will aid in recovery.)

    3:
    this is what i would do personally
    run test/deca as stated previously
    wks 1-5 win @ 50-75mg ED your call
    then last 4 weeks (wk10-14) right up to PCT i'd run anadrol at around 50-100mgED (since its a dht as well and is suppose to increase free test as well it should aid in recovery and finish your cycle w/ a nice bang.)

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