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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    time means nothing. i heard alot of crap over the years about midnight being the best time for your body to produce hgh but its bull. there saying that just for the average person that goes to sleep at 10pm and wakes up at 6am. if you go to bed at midnight then the best time for you would be 2 hours after that when your begining your rem. stage
    well, as I understood it, sunlight has a host of effects on the human body, and darkness has a host of effects on the body as well. Of course, it's possible for someone to establish his own circadian rhythm outside of the norm, but it's not going to be the same. It may work for some people, but I don't think anyone can say that it's "100% as good" to be up at night, and be sleeping during the day. I just don't think it will be the same. I sincerely wish that anyone thinking about working on such a cycle please reconsider their lifestyle choice.

    Here's a website on the importance of light and proper circadian rhythms: http://www.holisticonline.com/Light_...ght_clocks.htm


    Also, here's some info from a random webpage (Medical College of Wisconsin) I just picked out by googling "sunlight circadian rhythm:"

    http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/922567322.html

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    Sleep and Circadian Rhythms

    Circadian rhythms are regular changes in mental and physical characteristics that occur in the course of a day (circadian is Latin for "around a day"). Most circadian rhythms are controlled by the body’s biological "clock." This clock, called the suprachiasmatic nucleus or SCN, is actually a pair of pinhead-sized brain structures that together contain about 20,000 neurons. The SCN rests in a part of the brain called the hypothalamus, just above the point where the optic nerves cross. Light that reaches photoreceptors in the retina (a tissue at the back of the eye) creates signals that travel along the optic nerve to the SCN.

    Signals from the SCN travel to several brain regions, including the pineal gland, which responds to light-induced signals by switching off production of the hormone melatonin. The body’s level of melatonin normally increases after darkness falls, making people feel drowsy. The SCN also governs functions that are synchronized with the sleep/wake cycle, including body temperature, hormone secretion, urine production, and changes in blood pressure.

    By depriving people of light and other external time cues, scientists have learned that most people’s biological clocks work on a 25-hour cycle rather than a 24-hour one. But because sunlight or other bright lights can reset the SCN, our biological cycles normally follow the 24-hour cycle of the sun, rather than our innate cycle. Circadian rhythms can be affected to some degree by almost any kind of external time cue, such as the beeping of your alarm clock, the clatter of a garbage truck, or the timing of your meals. Scientists call external time cues zeitgebers (German for "time givers").

    When travelers pass from one time zone to another, they suffer from disrupted circadian rhythms, an uncomfortable feeling known as jet lag. For instance, if you travel from California to New York, you "lose" 3 hours according to your body’s clock. You will feel tired when the alarm rings at 8 a.m. the next morning because, according to your body’s clock, it is still 5 a.m. It usually takes several days for your body's cycles to adjust to the new time.

    To reduce the effects of jet lag, some doctors try to manipulate the biological clock with a technique called light therapy. They expose people to special lights, many times brighter than ordinary household light, for several hours near the time the subjects want to wake up. This helps them reset their biological clocks and adjust to a new time zone.

    Symptoms much like jet lag are common in people who work nights or who perform shift work. Because these people’s work schedules are at odds with powerful sleep-regulating cues like sunlight, they often become uncontrollably drowsy during work, and they may suffer insomnia or other problems when they try to sleep. Shift workers have an increased risk of heart problems, digestive disturbances, and emotional and mental problems, all of which may be related to their sleeping problems. The number and severity of workplace accidents also tend to increase during the night shift. Major industrial accidents attributed partly to errors made by fatigued night-shift workers include the Exxon Valdez oil spill and the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl nuclear power plant accidents. One study also found that medical interns working on the night shift are twice as likely as others to misinterpret hospital test records, which could endanger their patients. It may be possible to reduce shift-related fatigue by using bright lights in the workplace, minimizing shift changes, and taking scheduled naps.

    Many people with total blindness experience life-long sleeping problems because their retinas are unable to detect light. These people have a kind of permanent jet lag and periodic insomnia because their circadian rhythms follow their innate cycle rather than a 24-hour one. Daily supplements of melatonin may improve night-time sleep for such patients. However, since the high doses of melatonin found in most supplements can build up in the body, long-term use of this substance may create new problems. Because the potential side effects of melatonin supplements are still largely unknown, most experts discourage melatonin use by the general public.

    Article Created: 1999-03-27
    Article Updated: 1999-04-09
    Last edited by barondumonde; 03-14-2008 at 07:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barondumonde View Post
    My dear friend, sunlight has a host of effects on the human body, and darkness has a host of effects on the body as well. Of course, it's possible for someone to establish his own circadian rhythm outside of the norm, but it's not going to be the same. It may work for some people, but I don't think anyone can say that it's "100% as good" to be up at night, and be sleeping during the day. I just don't think it will be the same. I sincerely wish that anyone thinking about working on such a cycle please reconsider their lifestyle choice.

    Here's a website on the importance of light and proper circadian rhythms: http://www.holisticonline.com/Light_...ght_clocks.htm


    Also, here's some info from a random webpage (Medical College of Wisconsin) I just picked out by googling "sunlight circadian rhythm:"

    http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/922567322.html

    ----------------------------------------
    Sleep and Circadian Rhythms

    Circadian rhythms are regular changes in mental and physical characteristics that occur in the course of a day (circadian is Latin for "around a day"). Most circadian rhythms are controlled by the body’s biological "clock." This clock, called the suprachiasmatic nucleus or SCN, is actually a pair of pinhead-sized brain structures that together contain about 20,000 neurons. The SCN rests in a part of the brain called the hypothalamus, just above the point where the optic nerves cross. Light that reaches photoreceptors in the retina (a tissue at the back of the eye) creates signals that travel along the optic nerve to the SCN.

    Signals from the SCN travel to several brain regions, including the pineal gland, which responds to light-induced signals by switching off production of the hormone melatonin. The body’s level of melatonin normally increases after darkness falls, making people feel drowsy. The SCN also governs functions that are synchronized with the sleep/wake cycle, including body temperature, hormone secretion, urine production, and changes in blood pressure.

    By depriving people of light and other external time cues, scientists have learned that most people’s biological clocks work on a 25-hour cycle rather than a 24-hour one. But because sunlight or other bright lights can reset the SCN, our biological cycles normally follow the 24-hour cycle of the sun, rather than our innate cycle. Circadian rhythms can be affected to some degree by almost any kind of external time cue, such as the beeping of your alarm clock, the clatter of a garbage truck, or the timing of your meals. Scientists call external time cues zeitgebers (German for "time givers").

    When travelers pass from one time zone to another, they suffer from disrupted circadian rhythms, an uncomfortable feeling known as jet lag. For instance, if you travel from California to New York, you "lose" 3 hours according to your body’s clock. You will feel tired when the alarm rings at 8 a.m. the next morning because, according to your body’s clock, it is still 5 a.m. It usually takes several days for your body's cycles to adjust to the new time.

    To reduce the effects of jet lag, some doctors try to manipulate the biological clock with a technique called light therapy. They expose people to special lights, many times brighter than ordinary household light, for several hours near the time the subjects want to wake up. This helps them reset their biological clocks and adjust to a new time zone.

    Symptoms much like jet lag are common in people who work nights or who perform shift work. Because these people’s work schedules are at odds with powerful sleep-regulating cues like sunlight, they often become uncontrollably drowsy during work, and they may suffer insomnia or other problems when they try to sleep. Shift workers have an increased risk of heart problems, digestive disturbances, and emotional and mental problems, all of which may be related to their sleeping problems. The number and severity of workplace accidents also tend to increase during the night shift. Major industrial accidents attributed partly to errors made by fatigued night-shift workers include the Exxon Valdez oil spill and the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl nuclear power plant accidents. One study also found that medical interns working on the night shift are twice as likely as others to misinterpret hospital test records, which could endanger their patients. It may be possible to reduce shift-related fatigue by using bright lights in the workplace, minimizing shift changes, and taking scheduled naps.

    Many people with total blindness experience life-long sleeping problems because their retinas are unable to detect light. These people have a kind of permanent jet lag and periodic insomnia because their circadian rhythms follow their innate cycle rather than a 24-hour one. Daily supplements of melatonin may improve night-time sleep for such patients. However, since the high doses of melatonin found in most supplements can build up in the body, long-term use of this substance may create new problems. Because the potential side effects of melatonin supplements are still largely unknown, most experts discourage melatonin use by the general public.

    Article Created: 1999-03-27
    Article Updated: 1999-04-09
    my dear friend i sleep in the dark no matter if its day or night. there is this invention called the mini-blinds that works wonders. i dont see the sun all winter because i work inside. im well aware of the benifits of sunlight so please dont preach to me about that. i sleep at night tiime because i work days but you cant tell me that every single police officer, prison gaurd or anyone else that works the night shift's body produces less gh because they sleep during the day. thats just insane. so you think that during the 90 days of darkness in norway everyone 's body dosnt produce hgh? time to go back to school my dear friend as you so elegantly pu it
    Last edited by PT; 03-13-2008 at 03:47 AM.

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