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    I need ideas from some history buff's PLZZ.

    I've once again undergone the ultimate procrastination.

    I have one day (tommorow) to write a 10 page cited research paper for my history class on monday. (and yeh its friggn Easter too, so that narrows it down to like a half a day after family affairs)
    I wanted to start today but choosing a topic is half the battle. Theres too many things to write about, most of them boring.

    What are some cool things (within the last 300 years) to write about? I also will be presenting on it which is why I'm posting here. I'd like something with conspiracy, mass death or genocide, was thinkn the holocaust but its too cliche a topic.

    Just something interesting, maybe a particular event you've studied, and briefly why its cool/interesting to you. Thanks!!

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    Something like the holocaust might just be perfect bro.. cause there is like a million things u can block quote hahaha...

    I feel your pain.. i got 2 assignments to do tmrw that were due on Friday ha, and write an essay due on Monday tooo...

    ****in chicks.. and Heat rash too.. Grrrr

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    Yeh true, not a bad idea.

    But I think I like your idea of waiting to do the assignment till after its due better. =]

    When my professor asks me what my excuse is I'll just say "Women".. HAAH I love it!!!

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    the holocaust is cliché but it without a doubt was one of the most interesting periods of human history in memory.

    unless your prof hates reading the same kind of papers year in and year out, it would be a good topic that has a ton of material to get together really easily.

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    2 votes on 1 topic in the span of time I have to work with = me not being picky anymore lol.
    Holocaust it is!!

    ... I think.. fvck, here I go again.

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    good luck!

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    How about doing a paper on the past five years of the war with Iraq. It's part of history, with a great story line. That should be an easy and good topic for you elaborate on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phenom1979 View Post
    How about doing a paper on the past five years of the war with Iraq. It's part of history, with a great story line. That should be an easy and good topic for you elaborate on.
    i like that better than the holocaust. how many times do u think the professor have read a paper on the holocaust. enough to pull his/her own hair out is my guess

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    Pick someone famous in history and write about their life, and accomplishments. I wrote a 7 page paper over Andrew Jackson with ease. There's so much crazy shit that he had done. I actually enjoyed writing that paper over him. Then again, I started writing it about a week before it was due. Good luck bo!

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    Damn, thats actually a good idea too.
    The thing I liked about the Holocaust is I already had about 20 jokes I could use during my presentation and titles to put in my power point slides.

    1. How to learn from the mistakes of hitler and start your own holocaust the right way.

    a) don't give powerful narcotics that make you loco to your own side (give them to the side you *DON'T* like) - this will actually make defeat easier.
    b) large bodies of water are cheaper and much less smelly than fire.
    c) SHAVE YOUR DAMN MUSTACHE SO PEOPLE TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.. freak.

    I'd casually open my powerpoint and do my intro w/out looking @ the screen than be like "damn! my little brother was on my computer again!!"

    haha.. ok yeh maybe I should def go with the Iraq war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg_28 View Post
    Pick someone famous in history and write about their life, and accomplishments. I wrote a 7 page paper over Andrew Jackson with ease. There's so much crazy shit that he had done. I actually enjoyed writing that paper over him. Then again, I started writing it about a week before it was due. Good luck bo!
    /\ Another good point, I'll do one of my descendents, like Cassanova & all the women he banged.
    Thats history right?

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    i can has sudetenland

    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Damn, thats actually a good idea too.
    The thing I liked about the Holocaust is I already had about 20 jokes I could use during my presentation and titles to put in my power point slides.

    1. How to learn from the mistakes of hitler and start your own holocaust the right way.

    a) don't give powerful narcotics that make you loco to your own side (give them to the side you *DON'T* like) - this will actually make defeat easier.
    b) large bodies of water are cheaper and much less smelly than fire.
    c) SHAVE YOUR DAMN MUSTACHE SO PEOPLE TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.. freak.

    I'd casually open my powerpoint and do my intro w/out looking @ the screen than be like "damn! my little brother was on my computer again!!"

    haha.. ok yeh maybe I should def go with the Iraq war.
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    homework help? I'm way to far in the bag for that.

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    u know what u should do. post a thread to see if any has a history paper that they can give u. i did this before almost 2 yrs ago askin for a paper on affirmative action for my soc class and some cool ass dude sent a 6 page paper. i'd look thru my old papers to see if i have anything on history but my laptop is busted so now im using my roommates desktop

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    Doing it on Iraq is a good idea. I'm about holocaust and jewed out. Do it on the 6 million who weren't jews and mass murdered and why jews and no one else talks about.
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    Or, do something on the tyrant Bush.
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    The fight for central Asia with imperial Britain and Russia.

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    The Rwandan Genocide would be a pretty good topic. I visited the memorial museum they have there, and it makes the Museum of Tolerance look like a trip to Disneyland. A lot of interesting things to write about.

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    I would say don't do anything on the Holocaust or the War in Iraq. I bet he's already got a lot of papers on that. I would pick a subject that most people think are pluses for society and take a controversial stance on it. For example, you can right how the Wilson era changed America for the worse and how he affected nearly all his successors.

    You can do something on FDR and his unprecedented run in office. For that you can write about how the New Deal prolonged the depression and what the affects on society were (ie welfare, internment camps, dictatorial type leadership).

    You could probably write a whole paper on how the radical left of the 50's broke off into a new group called the neo-conservatives and how that changed certain groups within the republican party and what the consequences were/are.

    You could do a paper on how welfare is a detriment to society and how it's completely unconstitutional.

    The best paper you could probably write is how the US economic and monetary policies have changed everything we do and consolidated the powers in government, which is the complete anti-thesis of what the founders had in mind. For this you can do a comparison of monetary policy before and after the fed was established and what it did for government and business.

    A really controversial subject would be how ending the War on Drugs would be beneficial for society as a whole.

    Or you can do something on a current even like how California is not allowing kids to be homeschooled anymore and how that's one more large step in the wrong direction for America.

    Wen you pick a subject let us know so we can help you gather information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blome View Post
    I would say don't do anything on the Holocaust or the War in Iraq. I bet he's already got a lot of papers on that. I would pick a subject that most people think are pluses for society and take a controversial stance on it. For example, you can right how the Wilson era changed America for the worse and how he affected nearly all his successors.

    You can do something on FDR and his unprecedented run in office. For that you can write about how the New Deal prolonged the depression and what the affects on society were (ie welfare, internment camps, dictatorial type leadership).

    You could probably write a whole paper on how the radical left of the 50's broke off into a new group called the neo-conservatives and how that changed certain groups within the republican party and what the consequences were/are.

    You could do a paper on how welfare is a detriment to society and how it's completely unconstitutional.

    The best paper you could probably write is how the US economic and monetary policies have changed everything we do and consolidated the powers in government, which is the complete anti-thesis of what the founders had in mind. For this you can do a comparison of monetary policy before and after the fed was established and what it did for government and business.

    A really controversial subject would be how ending the War on Drugs would be beneficial for society as a whole.

    Or you can do something on a current even like how California is not allowing kids to be homeschooled anymore and how that's one more large step in the wrong direction for America.

    Wen you pick a subject let us know so we can help you gather information.
    Wow, you certainly said a mouthful here, for sure. The holocaust would be a perfect topic from the perspective of those 6 million killed who were not jews and why jews never mention them.

    Woodrow Wilson? Considered by every presidential historical expert to have been one of the ten best, if not in the top 5, of all presidents.

    Neoconservatism was a movement by zionist inspired jews in the US to align foreign policy that would be favorable to Israel. Foreign policy was reshaped to favor preemptive intervention and conflict over diplomacy and dialogue. Machiavelli was their hero.

    Welfare isn't a detriment to society, its administration is corrupt. So is the fact that less than 5% of the population controls over 90% of the wealth and resources in the country, the very reason some people need public assistance, such as minorities and children.

    The creation of the Fed was to provide a common currency and control over the money and financial institutions in the country. In the early part of the 20th century there were dozens of competing currencies and vast corruption.

    The war on drugs? I don't think legalizing drugs is the answer. Maybe instead of spending trillions on wars and conflicts, investing that money on fighting poverty, disease and education in nations of the south.

    We will never do anything at all to improve our country, or any part of the world until a real leader shows up, who obviously doesn't appear on the horizon. In the meantime, I'd love to be invisible and listen in to the conversations of Mary Matalin and James Carville after a couple of bottles of wine. Who'd ever have thunk that that marriage would last as long as it has? Weird, odd couple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soccer#3 View Post
    u know what u should do. post a thread to see if any has a history paper that they can give u. i did this before almost 2 yrs ago askin for a paper on affirmative action for my soc class and some cool ass dude sent a 6 page paper. i'd look thru my old papers to see if i have anything on history but my laptop is busted so now im using my roommates desktop
    Yeh one of my friends said this kid actually walks around campus selling cd's with nothing but thousands of papers on it for like 20 bucks.

    I already started so its too late but thanks for the offer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Yeh one of my friends said this kid actually walks around campus selling cd's with nothing but thousands of papers on it for like 20 bucks.

    I already started so its too late but thanks for the offer!
    thats a good price. i assume he has works cited sheets for all the papers too. im past all my classes where they require papers thank god. i hate doin papers, i rather take an exam

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    And Blome I wish I saw that before I started.

    I wound up going with the Holocaust and I regret it now 100%. Theres WAYYY too much information/politics/and propaganda to condense everything down.
    I go over some things that were already mentioned like the other 5-8 millions non-Jews who were murdered and the fact that Himmler was the one who oversaw the operation and that theres very little to no documented evidence directly tying Hitler to it.

    However some documents "suggest" his role in it.

    I also mentioned the 150,000 Jews who faught for him, the opportunity he gave Jews in the Haavara Agreement that would have benifited both Jews and Nazis.
    The people who wanted Hitler accused of treason for being "soft on Jews".
    THe group of all Jews who nominated him for the Noble Peace Prize.
    High status Jewish political figureheads who openly supported him.

    And the fact that he really is a lot farther from evil than most people think. Theres loads of hyprocrisy in the whole ordeal.

    I actually will be turning it in late however because my syllabus burned after my brothers wife pushed it accidentally into a candle and I lost the proper format for the paper.
    My printer lost ink 1/4 of the way through printing all the references (YES we actually have to print the actual references, complete waste of f**kn paper & never had to do that shit before).
    I have to squeeze in more citations, do the bibliography, and all the crap that was suppose to take 30mins but can't possibly be finished by 8:30am tommorow unless superman rings my doorbell tonight.

    Oh well, thats the price for procrastination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    And Blome I wish I saw that before I started.

    I wound up going with the Holocaust and I regret it now 100%. Theres WAYYY too much information/politics/and propaganda to condense everything down.
    I go over some things that were already mentioned like the other 5-8 millions non-Jews who were murdered and the fact that Himmler was the one who oversaw the operation and that theres very little to no documented evidence directly tying Hitler to it.

    However some documents "suggest" his role in it.

    I also mentioned the 150,000 Jews who faught for him, the opportunity he gave Jews in the Haavara Agreement that would have benifited both Jews and Nazis.
    The people who wanted Hitler accused of treason for being "soft on Jews".
    THe group of all Jews who nominated him for the Noble Peace Prize.
    High status Jewish political figureheads who openly supported him.

    And the fact that he really is a lot farther from evil than most people think. Theres loads of hyprocrisy in the whole ordeal.

    I actually will be turning it in late however because my syllabus burned after my brothers wife pushed it accidentally into a candle and I lost the proper format for the paper.
    My printer lost ink 1/4 of the way through printing all the references (YES we actually have to print the actual references, complete waste of f**kn paper & never had to do that shit before).
    I have to squeeze in more citations, do the bibliography, and all the crap that was suppose to take 30mins but can't possibly be finished by 8:30am tommorow unless superman rings my doorbell tonight.

    Oh well, thats the price for procrastination.
    i wouldnt hand in a paper you werent satisfied with.

    i say, if you have it in you to start from scratch and write something you're satisfied with, then try it.

    can you get an extension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccer#3 View Post
    thats a good price. i assume he has works cited sheets for all the papers too. im past all my classes where they require papers thank god. i hate doin papers, i rather take an exam
    I KNOW! After my first 3 years at some point I started missing classes and realizing getting A's on exams in college means more than anything.

    I got an A on the first exam for this class, haven't done one Chapter Summary (its worth like 3% the final grade and takes too much time) have this paper which is worth 1/4, the final another 1/4, than everything else adds up to another 1/4.
    This professor is cool but if he gives me crap about a late paper I may have to kill him. Most just take off a letter grade every week but this guy didn't mention nor do I remember seeing it in the syllabus before it went into flames.

    Its funny how stressful school is even when you've devoted more time figuring out how to be as lazy as possible while keep a 3.0 or higher gpa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic View Post
    i wouldnt hand in a paper you werent satisfied with.

    i say, if you have it in you to start from scratch and write something you're satisfied with, then try it.

    can you get an extension?
    Yeh I know it bothers me too.

    Starting from scratch would be a bitch but it would really depend on how much extra time (if any) my professors willing to give.
    Hes really crazy compared to a lot of professors I've had in the past.

    Like he's cool as shit about certain things but other things hes abnormally strict about, like making us print out the actual references. All I've ever had to do in the past was just a reference page. He said even if theres 100 pages to print - print it all out + turn in any books we used.
    And the whole time I'm thinking WHYYYY!!! WTF IS THE G/DAMN POINT!?!!! Like who the hell requires that bs? Never in my life even heard of such a thing.

    Yeh but that extension means everything at this point. *crossing fingers*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Yeh I know it bothers me too.

    Starting from scratch would be a bitch but it would really depend on how much extra time (if any) my professors willing to give.
    Hes really crazy compared to a lot of professors I've had in the past.

    Like he's cool as shit about certain things but other things hes abnormally strict about, like making us print out the actual references. All I've ever had to do in the past was just a reference page. He said even if theres 100 pages to print - print it all out + turn in any books we used.And the whole time I'm thinking WHYYYY!!! WTF IS THE G/DAMN POINT!?!!! Like who the hell requires that bs? Never in my life even heard of such a thing.

    Yeh but that extension means everything at this point. *crossing fingers*
    holy crap. can teachers even do that, its not like hes going to read ALL your references.

    thats crazy

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    How about the Doolittle raid on Japan.

    Jimmy Doolittle flew a bombing run on Tokyo after Pearl Harbor.

    I read his life story its pretty amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic View Post
    holy crap. can teachers even do that, its not like hes going to read ALL your references.

    thats crazy
    Yeh I actually got so mad just thinking about it I just emailed asking him for an extension and casually slipped in the point that in process of printing out like page 28 of the references my computer ran out of ink and now I have to buy a new cartridge for it tommorow.

    I wanted to ask what his logic was behind it but I figured since I'm asking for a favor I might as well be humble.. unless he decides to be a dick about it. The email was actually pointless because I know he won't even read it before I talk to him tommorow but I had to do something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by im83931 View Post
    How about the Doolittle raid on Japan.

    Jimmy Doolittle flew a bombing run on Tokyo after Pearl Harbor.

    I read his life story its pretty amazing.
    I just googled it real quick, pretty cool how they modified the planes. At this point I would have rather done anything except the Holocaust but I'll have to see what my professor says first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecivon View Post
    Wow, you certainly said a mouthful here, for sure. The holocaust would be a perfect topic from the perspective of those 6 million killed who were not jews and why jews never mention them.
    Sure it would be a perfect topic and interesting from that viewpoint, but as I’ve said someone else in his class most likely has chosen to write about that subject.

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    Woodrow Wilson? Considered by every presidential historical expert to have been one of the ten best, if not in the top 5, of all presidents.
    The facts are out there if you do a little research and don’t just accept what someone tells you as fact. History is the real expert on presidents and that history cannot be ignored. Just for a comparison, Woodrow Wilson makes Bush look like a saint and the fact that Bush’s ideals are direct descendents of Wilsonian ideals should tell you something. Let me ask you, in 75 years from now if someone were to tell you that Bush is in the top five presidents in History what would you say? I wouldn’t agree with them.

    Wilson was very pro Mussolini and Mussolini was pro Wilson, but that’s largely ignored because of what Mussolini represents. Wilson was a socialist/fascist and his policies reflected that. He created the first propaganda ministry and the American Protective league (one of the most fascist regimes ever unleashed on the American people). Everything was censored. You could not utter one negative word about Wilson legally. People were beaten and/or shot if they didn’t stand up for the national anthem.

    We can’t talk about Wilson and socialist policies without mentioning his passage of the Revenue Act, the Federal Reserve act, Federal Farm Loan Act, the Espionage Act, the Sedition Act, and the Volstead Act (precursor to the War on Drugs). All of which reeked havoc on free market principles and liberty. However, most of them were/are touted as “revolutionary.” Wilson was also a racist. He held the first viewing of D.W. Griffith’s film Birth of a Nation in the White House and he established full segregation in Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecivon View Post
    Neoconservatism was a movement by zionist inspired jews in the US to align foreign policy that would be favorable to Israel. Foreign policy was reshaped to favor preemptive intervention and conflict over diplomacy and dialogue. Machiavelli was their hero.
    I hope your not trying to refute the fact that neo-conservatism is a movement that stemmed from the radical left of the 1950-60’s. Again, research this one if you don’t believe me. Irving Kristol, the so called father of the neo-conservative movement and real father of William Kristol (modern neo-conservative), was a Trotkyist and, yes, he was Jewish. However, the Zionist inspired part is false. It wasn’t until late in the movement that neo-conservatives embraced the Christian Zionists and that was purely a political scheme as evidenced by today’s religious right. He founded two political journals worth noting: The National Interest and The Public Interest. If that sounds a little socialistic, that’s because it is. I’m sure no one on the left would like to acknowledge the fact that neo-conservatives are essentially warmongering liberals. Besides their views on foreign policy and social issues, point out to me where they are different than liberals. Let’s not forget the fact that neo-conservatives are influenced by Wilsonian ideals, namely: the spread of “democracy” (a term that was warped during the progressive era and remains warped today), and interventionism to spread freedom. Sound familiar? I find it quite ironic that president Bush, whom liberals hate so much, is a product of their own ideals.

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    Welfare isn't a detriment to society, its administration is corrupt. So is the fact that less than 5% of the population controls over 90% of the wealth and resources in the country, the very reason some people need public assistance, such as minorities and children.
    So, in essence, profits are evil and wealth should be spread evenly about society. If you think that sounds ridiculous, it’s exactly what you just said in that quote. Do you know anything about free markets or liberty and how it’s helped the advancement of man in the past 230 years? If you did, than you would realize why Welfare is a huge detriment to society and why it’s completely against what this country was founded on. I agree with you when you say that some people are need of assistance, but you ignored the very people who are actually in need of it: handicapped, elderly, and those who aren’t able to work for a living.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecivon View Post
    The creation of the Fed was to provide a common currency and control over the money and financial institutions in the country. In the early part of the 20th century there were dozens of competing currencies and vast corruption.
    I could go into this in detail, but there’s just too much info out there to even justify answering this in depth. I find it pretty funny how in the paragraph above you say that less than 5% own the wealth, yet the very next paragraph you go onto to defend the Fed. You may want to read the constitution for an answer on this.

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    The war on drugs? I don't think legalizing drugs is the answer. Maybe instead of spending trillions on wars and conflicts, investing that money on fighting poverty, disease and education in nations of the south.
    The saying “history repeats itself” is fitting here. You think that a government subsidized black market is better than a well regulated legalized market in which we could actually implement regulations?

    Again, this subject has been discussed ad-naseum on here so it’s kind of futile to continue the argument. I just want you to note that you yourself pointed out the hypocrisy in another thread that you started today. Mind you, that’s only one example.

    Take a look at this article (the “illicit” words were edited by the member ActofGod):

    The Re-legalization of Drugs
    By Tibor R. Machan and Mark Thornton

    Professors Machan and Thornton teach in the Department of Philosophy and the Department of Economics, respectively, at Auburn University.

    Americans are growing increasingly skeptical of the government’s claims about winning the war against drugs. Should this war be supported because a smaller percentage of teenagers use Green, or should it be opposed because a larger percentage of teenagers and young adults use C and CRCK? Should people be optimistic when multi-billion dollar shipments of C are confiscated, or pessimistic that seizures continue to increase yet have such little impact on price and consumption? We argue that drug prohibition was doomed to failure and that the best alternative is an immediate return to complete legalization of such drugs.

    One of the dearest lessons from history is that suppression of voluntary trade only drives the market underground and adds a criminal element. We claim that the trade and use of drugs should not be prohibited and must be dealt with by means of education, character building, willpower, and social institutions, without benefit of force of arms. Unfortunately this proposition is no longer obvious in our “free” society—perhaps due to the widespread conviction that individual responsibility is merely a relic of ancient philosophy and religion.

    The war on drugs received several major increases in funding during the 1980s, and the U.S. military is now heavily involved in drug-law enforcement. Despite these increased resources we are no closer to success with drug prohibition than socialism is at creating a “new economic man.” The fact that a full array of illegal drugs is available for sale throughout the Federal prison system, the Pentagon, and in front of the Drug Enforcement Administration building in Washington, D.C., demonstrates that little has been accomplished.

    One lofty goal of drug prohibition was to prevent crime by removing access to mind-altering drugs. The great American tragedy is that prohibition has created a vast new area of criminal activity—crimes such as robbery, burglary, and prostitution committed in order to pay for the high prices of illegal drugs. It is well documented that drug users commit crimes to pay the high prices brought on by prohibition and that wealthy addicts do not.

    The rate of crimes with victims increased during the alcohol prohibition of the 1920s only to decline rapidly in 1933, the year Prohibition was repealed. Crime continued to decline until the mid-1960s and has been increasing ever since. The prison population increased by 35 percent between 1984 and 1988. During that period the “criminals on parole” population increased by over 50 percent! More innocent bystanders are being killed, more school systems are infected, and more neighborhoods are destroyed by the growing problems of prohibition.

    The 1990 arraignment of Mayor Marion Barry was a spectacular media event, but drug prohibition has been corrupting the political process for a very long time. This corruption is not confined to the United States. A look around the globe shows that countries that produce, process, and sell illegal drugs are also afflicted with corrupt political systems—consider Southeast Asia, Lebanon, Mexico, South America.

    The government recently reported with great pride that a smaller percentage of teenagers are regular Green smokers. What was left out of that press release is that consumption of virtually every other type of drug has increased and that the number of reported deaths associated with illegal drug use continues to skyrocket. New types of drugs such as smokable C and synthetic opiates are being introduced onto the streets at an alarming rate. The switch from Green to the more potent and dangerous drugs is directly attributable to the enforcement of drug laws.

    Prohibition forces black market suppliers to take precautions against detection. This ever present profit-making incentive takes on several forms such as:

    1. Producing only the most potent form of a drug.

    2. Switching from low potency drugs, such as green, to high potency drugs, such as C and H.

    3. Inventing and producing more potent drugs, such as “designer drugs,” which are synthetic opiates thousands of times more potent than opium.

    These results have been labeled accurately in the popular press the “Iron Law of Prohibition.”

    The history of drug prohibitions reveals that black markets produce low quality, high potency, and extremely dangerous products. The most powerful weapon of these black marketeers is not the gun, but the ability to stay at least one step ahead of law enforcement.

    The population of the United States is growing older and more affluent. Normally these demographic changes would reduce drug use and addiction. Even habitual H users stabilize their habits and mature out of addiction if they survive the war on drugs. However, these beneficial trends have been far outweighed by the increased severity of the effects of prohibition. In fact, we would be surprised if prohibition actually did work. Any law or program that undermines individual responsibility and liberty has little chance of enhancing a democratic and free market society.

    Most Americans agree that prohibition is not working—the dispute is over what to do about it. Many argue that we don’t have the right people in charge, but we have been changing the guard (and the law) now for over 150 years. Others argue that we just haven’t done enough, but things have only become worse as we devote more of our resources and surrender our liberties to this cause. The support for prohibition rests on the fact that people cannot contemplate the obvious alternative—legalization.

    The Benefits of Legalization

    Legalization has many obvious benefits. Lower prices would mean that drug users would no longer have to resort to crime to pay for their habits. With the tremendous profits gone, corruption of public officials would be reduced, and because Americans constitute a bulk of world consumption, political corruption worldwide would be reduced.

    Government budgets at the Federal, state, and local levels could be cut as entire programs are dismantled. However, one thing legalization would not do is balance government budgets. There is no way that tax rates on drugs could be raised high enough to offset the more than $300 billion Federal deficit. Furthermore, high tax rates would encourage the black market to continue, people would still commit crimes to pay the high prices, and politicians would still be involved in corruption.

    Legalization will create jobs in the private sector. People will be employed making H, C, and green for “recreational” and “legitimate” users. All of these products have legitimate uses and may have as-yet-undiscovered uses. Green(hemp) will be a valuable (and environmentally safe) source of products such as paper, fiber, fuel, budding materials, clothing, animal and bird food, medicine and medicinal preparations, and a protein source for humans. It can be grown in a variety of climates and sod types and grows well without chemical fertilizers or pesticides.

    The repeal of drug prohibitions will allow police, courts, and prisons to concentrate on real criminals while at the same time greatly reducing the number of crimes committed to pay for drugs. No longer will judges be forced to open prison doors because of overcrowding. The courts and police will be better able to serve and protect—crime will pay a lot less! Street gangs will deteriorate without their income from illegal drug sales.

    The people involved and methods of producing and selling drugs will change dramatically. The current dealers of drugs will not survive in a competitive marketplace. Large companies will produce and distribute these drugs on a national scale. In such an environment the drugs will be less potent and less dangerous. Consumers will be safer and better informed—changes in the product will be consumer-driven. The producers will face many legal constraints such as negligence and product liability laws. The threat of wrongful death suits and class action lawsuits will also constrain their behavior.

    It is not surprising that these products were much safer before drug prohibition. The makers of Bayer Aspirin sold H pills that were safe enough to prescribe to babies, and the Coca-Cola company used C in its product. These products were generally non-poisonous, non-toxic, and non-lethal. The three major free market drugs—alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine—are substantially safer today than they were 10 or 30 years ago. The average potency of all three continues to decrease over time.

    Constructive debate can overcome political and ideological maneuvering only if people clearly understand the differences between prohibition and legalization. Prohibition is simply a piece of legislation enforced by use of law officers, guns, and prisons. Prohibition is not drug education, drug treatment centers, rehabilitation centers, serf-help programs such as Alcoholics Anonymous, religion, family, friends, doctors, help hot lines, and civic organizations. “Just Say No” does not have to leave because we say goodbye to prohibition.

    “Private Prohibitions”

    In discussing the problems of drug abuse many people feel that legalization would only reduce the prices of drugs and therefore only increase the amount and severity of drug abuse. People would be smoking green in McDonald’s, the school bus driver would be shooting up H, and airplane pilots would be snorting C before takeoff. This confusion results from a failure to distinguish between prohibition and private contractual regulations.

    Restaurants could prevent people from smoking green just as they have the right to prevent people from smoking cigarettes or from entering without shoes. Airlines, railroads, and nuclear power plants have the right and incentive to contract with their workers, for example, not to drink alcohol on the job. These “private prohibitions” are generally aimed at the most significant problems of drug use such as safety. Not only are they specifically targeted, they are better enforced—co-workers, customers, unions, insurance companies, and management also benefit from such restrictions and therefore contribute to enforcement. The use of private restrictions and drug testing will be enhanced after the repeal of prohibition.

    While we haven’t examined all aspects of prohibition and legalization, enough of the issues have been discussed to refute many of the myths of legalization and to make the question of quantity consumed a non-issue. Re-legalization is the admission of government’s failure in pursuit of a lofty goal, not a ringing endorsement of drug abuse.

    Legalization has been labeled immoral by prohibitionists, but nothing could be further from the truth. Reliance on individual initiative and responsibility is no sin. It is not only the key to success in the battle against drug abuse, it is also a reaffirmation of traditional American values. How can someone make a moral choice when one is in fact forced into a particular course of action? How is the fabric of society strengthened when we rely on guns and prisons to enforce behavior rather than letting behavior be determined by individual responsibility and family upbringing?

    The sooner we move toward re-legalization, the sooner we can begin the process of healing the scars of prohibition, solving the problems of drug abuse, and curing this nation’s addiction to drug laws.
    Quote Originally Posted by ecivon View Post
    We will never do anything at all to improve our country, or any part of the world until a real leader shows up, who obviously doesn't appear on the horizon. In the meantime, I'd love to be invisible and listen in to the conversations of Mary Matalin and James Carville after a couple of bottles of wine. Who'd ever have thunk that that marriage would last as long as it has? Weird, odd couple.
    The reason we will never do anything to improve this country is not solely because we lack a competent leader. That responsibility lies in the hands of the people. Yet, as evidenced by the information you presented, we refuse to do anything.

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    What did you end up writing about Bojangles?

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