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[jbonez19]

Ok so tell me what leads you to believe that I didn't realize that? I realize he could gain 10lbs naturally and newtosteroids has said the same I believe but he wants a bit of a kickstart and to get there quickly, what's so wrong with that?
Are you just sumizing as he's going to ibiza that he won't have a good diet and won't train properly? After you've finished with that crystal ball can I have a go? lol

he wants a bit of a kickstart and to get there quickly. are you serious?? there's plenty wrong with that. i think you will find that your ideas are out of step with most of the long time members of this forum. perhaps you need to sit back and watch how some of the vets answer this kind of thread. i now believe that you also need to have a good look at your attitude to steroid use. i think you are a little bit confused, and that is a little dangerous for you to hold onto those ideas. stop trying to argue with longhorn, his advice is far more mature and responsible than what you are proposing. be a man admit you were wrong and leave it at that. your smartass comments are just serving to discredit you, and make you look silly.

[Hudson]

he wants a bit of a kickstart and to get there quickly. are you serious?? there's plenty wrong with that. i think you will find that your ideas are out of step with most of the long time members of this forum. perhaps you need to sit back and watch how some of the vets answer this kind of thread. i now believe that you also need to have a good look at your attitude to steroid use. i think you are a little bit confused, and that is a little dangerous for you to hold onto those ideas.

I know my ideas don't go along with the norm around here, you only need to look at this thread to realize that lol

But i've sat here and listened to numerous views asked questions been questioned back but i've still not heard a valid arguement as to why this is wrong. If you'd like to enlighten me i'd like to hear it.

[jbonez19]

I know my ideas don't go along with the norm around here, you only need to look at this thread to realize that lol

But i've sat here and listened to numerous views asked questions been questioned back but i've still not heard a valid arguement as to why this is wrong. If you'd like to enlighten me i'd like to hear it.

no i wouldn't like to enlighten you, i don't have the patience or the time. longhorn was trying to "enlighten" you both smarstass, but all you do is argue. oh, and your ideas go against the norm because they are mis-guided and potentially dangerous. you seem to think we are discussing taking aspirin here.

[Hudson]

no i wouldn't like to enlighten you, i don't have the patience or the time.

LOL ok, try to have a bit of a debate and maybe learn something and thats the reply you give. To most people that would seem to be saying that you don't have an answer!

[Charger527]

you guys should start your own thread

[jbonez19]

LOL ok, try to have a bit of a debate and maybe learn something and thats the reply you give. To most people that would seem to be saying that you don't have an answer!

if you want to learn something, shut your smart mouth an go and read the ed. section.

[nowdenlid]

good luck jerkoff.

come on man grow up ,there is no need for this at all.......i did read befor edit........lol...

[Hudson]

come on man grow up ,there is no need for this at all.......i did read befor edit........lol...

Jbonez lol how old are you? Real mature lol

[Big]

LOL ok, try to have a bit of a debate and maybe learn something and thats the reply you give. To most people that would seem to be saying that you don't have an answer!

The fact of the matter is that most of us on this site recommend following a proper diet and proper training until someone reaches or at least approaches their natural potential before they start considering steroids. This guy's pic and stats clearly indicate that his natural potential is far away, and his goals are obtainable naturally. Jbonez has made excellent points in just about all of his posts, if you don't agree with him then simply agree to disagree, but you should not conclude that he does not have an answer simply because you don't like the answers he has already provided.

[Hudson]

The fact of the matter is that most of us on this site recommend following a proper diet and proper training until someone reaches or at least approaches their natural potential before they start considering steroids. This guy's pic and stats clearly indicate that his natural potential is far away, and his goals are obtainable naturally. Jbonez has made excellent points in just about all of his posts, if you don't agree with him then simply agree to disagree, but you should not conclude that he does not have an answer simply because you don't like the answers he has already provided.

My conclusion didn't come from the fact that I didn't like his answers but from the FACT that he point blank refused to answer me!

[Big]

My conclusion didn't come from the fact that I didn't like his answers but from the FACT that he point blank refused to answer me!

How about we stop hijacking this guy's thread, just pm each other if you both want to debate this. I think the original poster's questions have been addressed.

[Hudson]

no i wouldn't like to enlighten you, i don't have the patience or the time. longhorn was trying to "enlighten" you both smarstass, but all you do is argue. oh, and your ideas go against the norm because they are mis-guided and potentially dangerous. you seem to think we are discussing taking aspirin here.

No need to flame. Just because I have a decent vocabulary don't mean i'm a smart ass. I wasn't arguing with longhorn I was debating with him, I'm sorry but you might just swallow whatever you get told but I like to here something to back it up. Just because I go against the general consenus it don't mean my views are neither misguided or dangerous, if you're that concerned about my views please explain for the benefit of everyone instead of throwing a tantrum!

[jbonez19]

i'm done.