I completely disagree..... Tbol is the one steroid IMHO that can be run by itself with very good keepable gains..... I ran @ 60mg ed..... very slight impact on HPTA and very easy to recover with or without Pct (in my case, didnt pct and recovered fast and fine)... If u need to PCT then Nolva @ 20mg ed for 3 weeks should be plenty...... Each person is different... everyone warned me of stomach cramps, gas, etc. etc.. and I experienced no sides.. well the only side I side experienced was out of control horniness... (Yeah Baby!!!) Hands down my favorite AAS... incredible strength increase and nice lean muscle gain (no water).... I am running VAR @ 70mg ed by itself right now and it doesnt even compare to TBOL..... I felt the effects of TBOL around week 2.....
good luck...