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    No conclusive cure for tendonisis has been created, especially because it is one of those areas in medical science that needs further research. However, physical therapy is one way that has been shown to alleviate the symptoms. Often times, "rest" doesn't actually heal the problem (although it many cases it does) like it does for tendon-itis because tendon-osis is damage done to the tendons on a cellular level that potentially upsets the proportion of type I and type III collagen. Furthermore, adding anti-aging collagen enhancing compounds like hGH may exacerbate the situation because it is stimulating the wrong kind of collagen to grow (type III) instead of type I. As it stands now, light physical therapy is best to increase blood flow to the area and ease the pain...however, avoid placing too much weight on the tendon as it will further damage the cells (this applies to weight training)...I believe cardio can be considered light and therefore you don't have to give that up. One of the compounds showing promise in treatment of chronic tendonosis right now is surprisingly (nor not) IGF, which somehow directly stimulates the growth of type 1 collagen... I myself have tendonosis of the forearm at the moment (along with osteolysis on the shoulder of the same arm...dang my cursed fate!) and plan to to an IGF cycle soon to see if it actually does work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane View Post
    No conclusive cure for tendonisis has been created, especially because it is one of those areas in medical science that needs further research. However, physical therapy is one way that has been shown to alleviate the symptoms. Often times, "rest" doesn't actually heal the problem (although it many cases it does) like it does for tendon-itis because tendon-osis is damage done to the tendons on a cellular level that potentially upsets the proportion of type I and type III collagen. Furthermore, adding anti-aging collagen enhancing compounds like hGH may exacerbate the situation because it is stimulating the wrong kind of collagen to grow (type III) instead of type I. As it stands now, light physical therapy is best to increase blood flow to the area and ease the pain...however, avoid placing too much weight on the tendon as it will further damage the cells (this applies to weight training)...I believe cardio can be considered light and therefore you don't have to give that up. One of the compounds showing promise in treatment of chronic tendonosis right now is surprisingly (nor not) IGF, which somehow directly stimulates the growth of type 1 collagen... I myself have tendonosis of the forearm at the moment (along with osteolysis on the shoulder of the same arm...dang my cursed fate!) and plan to to an IGF cycle soon to see if it actually does work.
    I´m curios about the IGF, did it work?
    I have a problem with my shoulders, really need something to get me going again.
    Have not been able to train for two years now, this is killing me, i´m so depressed of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane View Post
    No conclusive cure for tendonisis has been created, especially because it is one of those areas in medical science that needs further research. However, physical therapy is one way that has been shown to alleviate the symptoms. Often times, "rest" doesn't actually heal the problem (although it many cases it does) like it does for tendon-itis because tendon-osis is damage done to the tendons on a cellular level that potentially upsets the proportion of type I and type III collagen. Furthermore, adding anti-aging collagen enhancing compounds like hGH may exacerbate the situation because it is stimulating the wrong kind of collagen to grow (type III) instead of type I. As it stands now, light physical therapy is best to increase blood flow to the area and ease the pain...however, avoid placing too much weight on the tendon as it will further damage the cells (this applies to weight training)...I believe cardio can be considered light and therefore you don't have to give that up. One of the compounds showing promise in treatment of chronic tendonosis right now is surprisingly (nor not) IGF, which somehow directly stimulates the growth of type 1 collagen... I myself have tendonosis of the forearm at the moment (along with osteolysis on the shoulder of the same arm...dang my cursed fate!) and plan to to an IGF cycle soon to see if it actually does work.
    I am extremely interested in how this worked for you? I've competed in various sports which have taken their toll on my body. I have increasing pain in my right shoulder and my left knee. I have been researching the use of GH to improve my healing but after reading this thread I am once again taken back to square one.

    I'll have to admit this seems very complicated. After I get more research done I'd like to see what people think about gh and anything else to be used to improve my symptoms.

    for the sake of anyone who might want to give me their input now I'll list what my problems are.

    my right shoulder hurts when lifted straight out to the side either with my own force or by someone else and also if raised to the front. it hurts on top not the back.
    In the gym, it seems strong but incline bench hurts and so does side raises. I've dislocated this shoulder a few times snowboarding and have been a little hard on it, but this problem has started in the past month.

    As for my knee, I've never blown it out or hurt it bad, but ever since breaking my left ankle for the 3rd time when i sit for too long or use it for too long it hurts to the point that it inables me to crouch down. I've hyper-extended it a couple times but never a bad dislocation or any direct injury. I've talked to a few doctors and I have been told it could be the start of arthitis, or hurt tendons and ligaments. I have been to physical therapy a few times and their next suggestion is cortizone shots. I'm just affraid that will make everything worse if it dulls the pain to where i just use it more?

    Any suggestions anybody? should I try GH or IGF, or both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane View Post
    No conclusive cure for tendonisis has been created, especially because it is one of those areas in medical science that needs further research. However, physical therapy is one way that has been shown to alleviate the symptoms. Often times, "rest" doesn't actually heal the problem (although it many cases it does) like it does for tendon-itis because tendon-osis is damage done to the tendons on a cellular level that potentially upsets the proportion of type I and type III collagen. Furthermore, adding anti-aging collagen enhancing compounds like hGH may exacerbate the situation because it is stimulating the wrong kind of collagen to grow (type III) instead of type I. As it stands now, light physical therapy is best to increase blood flow to the area and ease the pain...however, avoid placing too much weight on the tendon as it will further damage the cells (this applies to weight training)...I believe cardio can be considered light and therefore you don't have to give that up. One of the compounds showing promise in treatment of chronic tendonosis right now is surprisingly (nor not) IGF, which somehow directly stimulates the growth of type 1 collagen... I myself have tendonosis of the forearm at the moment (along with osteolysis on the shoulder of the same arm...dang my cursed fate!) and plan to to an IGF cycle soon to see if it actually does work.
    Further to this, it would appear that IGF stimulates both type I and type III with the preference being type III. Not surprising considering you mentioned HGH isn't ideal due to it's stimulation of type III growth and HGH release IGF-1

    Ref:
    i'm a noob and can't post full urls pubmed/8853393
    i'm a noob and can't post full urls pubmed/10347117

    After this run of Thymosin Beta 4 I'll have my MRI redone, then likely try IGF-1 and then MRI again.

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