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    ED is not the only symptom, but it is the one that made me decide to go to a doctor. I have deminished lebido, and stamina. It is also kind of hard to describe, but a general lack of focus, especially at work. That is normally not like me.
    With that said I have still committed to working out. I was following Mark Rippatoe's starting strenght program with includes squating 3 times a week. I was able to do this for about 6 months varied, setting personell records. Now the gains are slowing way down. Last week I just got to the point where I decided I needed a week off, I just didnt want to get under that bar again.During the week off I noticed some small changes in the ED department. This week I got back into the lifting and I am back in the same boat I was in. I have a feeling my body just doesnt like to be pushed that hard, or at least my Test levels are somehow affected by the exercise.
    I will admit I look healthy, and if a doctor sees me he might not want to prescribe anything. It is going to be hard to convince a doctor to put me on Test because I want to optimize my gains. So I really want to sell him the side affects, even if I could manage my life without the supplement T. I may be at the borderline point of needing test, but that sucks to be low normal.I want to be more muscular, and I cant help thinking If i had normal test levels I would see better results. Sorry for writting a book, I do apreciat all the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stogie1969 View Post
    ED is not the only symptom, but it is the one that made me decide to go to a doctor. I have deminished lebido, and stamina. It is also kind of hard to describe, but a general lack of focus, especially at work. That is normally not like me.
    With that said I have still committed to working out. I was following Mark Rippatoe's starting strenght program with includes squating 3 times a week. I was able to do this for about 6 months varied, setting personell records. Now the gains are slowing way down. Last week I just got to the point where I decided I needed a week off, I just didnt want to get under that bar again.During the week off I noticed some small changes in the ED department. This week I got back into the lifting and I am back in the same boat I was in. I have a feeling my body just doesnt like to be pushed that hard, or at least my Test levels are somehow affected by the exercise.
    I will admit I look healthy, and if a doctor sees me he might not want to prescribe anything. It is going to be hard to convince a doctor to put me on Test because I want to optimize my gains. So I really want to sell him the side affects, even if I could manage my life without the supplement T. I may be at the borderline point of needing test, but that sucks to be low normal.I want to be more muscular, and I cant help thinking If i had normal test levels I would see better results. Sorry for writting a book, I do apreciat all the help.
    No, you are actually spot on in the way you describe your symptoms and yes you should be rewarded for hard work in the gym....and you are also right by not approaching a doc by being overly concerned about "bulking up" ....focus more on the other symptoms you are experiencing...i also had hit a plateau and was wondering wtf is going on and low and behold i was right at the bottom of the test level and was hoping that i could still get a RX since i was still in range just got to find the right doc....some wont RX if in range
    best of luck...keep working hard

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    Went and saw a Euro in Denver this week. Told him about my experiences with my Primary doctor. He agreed right away that more blood tests were needed and that a determination of primary or secondary Hypogonadalism was in order. As I was waiting to get my blood taken I noticed that the doc did not order an estradiol levels screen. I had the lab take an extra vial of blood and called the doc to ask if he would order this. He said he would but I might have to pay out of pocket. Any way I am optimistic, this guy seems to want to work with me. I read the book Testosterone Syndorome by Dr. Shippen. I am considering asking for the test lozenges rather than patch or shots. This seems like a very promissing solution, and quite capable of get the test into the higher levels. I know everyone here says go with injectables. Dr shippen says it is the worst way to administer TRT. He claims that too big an influx of test during the shot seems to cause the body to aromatize the test. I dont claim to have any real life experience so please dont flame me. Just want to see what others think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stogie1969 View Post
    Went and saw a Euro in Denver this week. Told him about my experiences with my Primary doctor. He agreed right away that more blood tests were needed and that a determination of primary or secondary Hypogonadalism was in order. As I was waiting to get my blood taken I noticed that the doc did not order an estradiol levels screen. I had the lab take an extra vial of blood and called the doc to ask if he would order this. He said he would but I might have to pay out of pocket. Any way I am optimistic, this guy seems to want to work with me. I read the book Testosterone Syndorome by Dr. Shippen. I am considering asking for the test lozenges rather than patch or shots. This seems like a very promissing solution, and quite capable of get the test into the higher levels. I know everyone here says go with injectables. Dr shippen says it is the worst way to administer TRT. He claims that too big an influx of test during the shot seems to cause the body to aromatize the test. I dont claim to have any real life experience so please dont flame me. Just want to see what others think.
    kudos on the new doc and yes often the case is that when you take more test at once it will aromatize as is why a lot on hrt will be on small doses of arimidex
    good job calling the doc back and getting the estradial and if he signs for it and you have decent insurance you wont have to pay extra for that
    sorry dont know anything about test lozenges...love that shot
    hope you get your game back soon bro

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    Know what you mean bro about these damn docs refusing to run the estrdiol test. I've had this rash on my back for about two months and the docs (both my primary and my Uro) just blow me off when I request an est test. The Uro went so far as to just say, "Yeah, that acne on your back is from the test. You should lower your dose." The dude didn't even let me take take off my shirt and show him my back. What a douche! He's like the docs that some of my bro's here talk about, doesn't let me say anything. He's a fat, arrogant slob but hey...he had to sign off for the test cyp to be covered by my insurance, so I can deal with it.
    Keep up your quest dude, you will get what you need eventually.

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