Group Claims Near Required Signatures To Put Gay Marriage Ban On Calif. Ballot

[BgMc31]

A breakdown in your values Kfrost, not mine. Herterosexual marriage is responsible for high divorce rates, not gays. Whether or not I agree with same-sex marriage doesn't matter because who someone else has zero affect on my well-being. How does same sex marriage effect anyone's life but theirs? And don't give me the bullshit of equating same sex marriage to polygamy because its two completely different things. There is absolutely nothing wrong with marriage between two consenting adults. Only someones ridiculous religious beliefs can justify this level of discrimination.

Question: Doesn't a ban on same-sex marriage violate the statute of the pursuit of happiness dictated in the constitution?

[kfrost06]

Question: Doesn't a ban on same-sex marriage violate the statute of the pursuit of happiness dictated in the constitution?

NO! no where in the constitution does it say "pursuit of happiness" that is from the Declaration of Independence.

[BgMc31]

NO! no where in the constitution does it say "pursuit of happiness" that is from the Declaration of Independence.

I stand corrected.

[kfrost06]

A breakdown in your values Kfrost, not mine. Herterosexual marriage is responsible for high divorce rates, not gays. Whether or not I agree with same-sex marriage doesn't matter because who someone else has zero affect on my well-being. How does same sex marriage effect anyone's life but theirs? And don't give me the bullshit of equating same sex marriage to polygamy because its two completely different things. There is absolutely nothing wrong with marriage between two consenting adults. Only someones ridiculous religious beliefs can justify this level of discrimination.

Question: Doesn't a ban on same-sex marriage violate the statute of the pursuit of happiness dictated in the constitution?

We have been through this before bgmc. Communist Russia, Communist China, Cuba where religion is illegal do not allow same sex marriage, the Romans where being gay and a pedophile were the norm, banned gay marriage, in fact no where ever in the history of mankind, even before mohammed, before Christ, before budda, etc has anyone regonized gay marriage, so why is it you and others want to villify Christians as the reason behind the fact that society (religious and non religious) do not want gay marriage?

[smokeyd]

We have been through this before bgmc. Communist Russia, Communist China, Cuba where religion is illegal do not allow same sex marriage, the Romans where being gay and a pedophile were the norm, banned gay marriage, in fact no where ever in the history of mankind, even before mohammed, before Christ, before budda, etc has anyone regonized gay marriage, so why is it you and others want to villify Christians as the reason behind the fact that society (religious and non religious) do not want gay marriage?

good point

[BgMc31]

We have been through this before bgmc. Communist Russia, Communist China, Cuba where religion is illegal do not allow same sex marriage, the Romans where being gay and a pedophile were the norm, banned gay marriage, in fact no where ever in the history of mankind, even before mohammed, before Christ, before budda, etc has anyone regonized gay marriage, so why is it you and others want to villify Christians as the reason behind the fact that society (religious and non religious) do not want gay marriage?

Where did I mention Christianity? I just said religion in general. I think its a failing of all religions to not allow people to love who they want to love. Roman marriage was an arrangement more often than not so that's a bad example.

But besides that, if homosexuality is permissable, then why not allow someone to solidify that bond with marriage? Who does it hurt? How does that contribute to the failing of society. Its simply discrimination with no basis.

[LawMan018]

This argument is ridiculous. Who cares what someone wants to do with their lives, it doesn't affect me, and it doesn't affect you (unless he marries your brother). Give me a fvckin break, if two guys want to be with eachother let them, who the hell am I, or you to say they can't? Unless God himself comes down and says no, then for fvcks sake go for it. Oh and don't give me this bs about what He said in the Bible, that thing was written over 2 thousand years ago... It's a little outdated for me to take it word for word

[kfrost06]

This argument is ridiculous. Who cares what someone wants to do with their lives, it doesn't affect me, and it doesn't affect you (unless he marries your brother). Give me a fvckin break, if two guys want to be with eachother let them, who the hell am I, or you to say they can't? Unless God himself comes down and says no, then for fvcks sake go for it. Oh and don't give me this bs about what He said in the Bible, that thing was written over 2 thousand years ago... It's a little outdated for me to take it word for word

Who in the FVCK gave you BS about the Bible??? You brought the Bible up! Since you did not read my post here it is

"We have been through this before bgmc. Communist Russia, Communist China, Cuba where religion is illegal do not allow same sex marriage, the Romans where being gay and a pedophile were the norm, banned gay marriage, in fact no where ever in the history of mankind, even before mohammed, before Christ, before budda, etc has anyone regonized gay marriage, so why is it you and others want to villify Christians as the reason behind the fact that society (religious and non religious) do not want gay marriage? "

If you do NOT want to hear about the Bible then stop bringing it up, I sure in the hell didn't bring it up nor is anyone else other then YOU

[Coop77]

We have been through this before bgmc. Communist Russia, Communist China, Cuba where religion is illegal do not allow same sex marriage, the Romans where being gay and a pedophile were the norm, banned gay marriage, in fact no where ever in the history of mankind, even before mohammed, before Christ, before budda, etc has anyone regonized gay marriage, so why is it you and others want to villify Christians as the reason behind the fact that society (religious and non religious) do not want gay marriage?

Canada
Belgium
Netherlands
South Africa
Spain
+ a few dozen countries that recognize civil unions

As far as I know, these societies haven't fallen apart yet.