Winny and Clen???

[BIGDOGIRISH]

My BF% will be high - guessing around 18%

So you think its ok/wise to do Winny and Clen only cycle?? How much winny tabs will I take e/d?? And what kind of results can I expect from winny and clen combination?

[ChuckLee]

My BF% will be high - guessing around 18%

So you think its ok/wise to do Winny and Clen only cycle?? How much winny tabs will I take e/d?? And what kind of results can I expect from winny and clen combination?

I'm not used to advising cycles w/out test, but I think a winny+clen stack should be quite mild, except for your liver, of course...just make sure you have completely recovered your natty test production before start again.
A 50mg/day of winny and 120mcg of clen for 6 weeks will be ok. BTW I'd suggest to start clen a few weeks before winny, because you don't have to rest for it after your andro cycle, and it works better for more than 6 weeks as well.
The results depends on your diet firstly, as ever. that stack will absolutely help you with your cut if your diet is strict and well planned.

CL

[BIGDOGIRISH]

I'm not used to advising cycles w/out test, but I think a winny+clen stack should be quite mild, except for your liver, of course...just make sure you have completely recovered your natty test production before start again.
A 50mg/day of winny and 120mcg of clen for 6 weeks will be ok. BTW I'd suggest to start clen a few weeks before winny, because you don't have to rest for it after your andro cycle, and it works better for more than 6 weeks as well.
The results depends on your diet firstly, as ever. that stack will absolutely help you with your cut if your diet is strict and well planned.

CL

Cheers.
I posted in the diet forum for advice on that.
I was thinking of doing the Clen for 2 or 3 weeks before the winny.
I really dont know what my bf% is gona be like. Think Im holding a fair bit of water right now. It dropped a lot after the dbol at least.

Seen as its my first cycle Im a little nervous about using Clen during the PCT. Scared it will affect maintaining my gains?? Should I be ok?
I have a decent PCT - HCG, Nolva, Clomid, Vit E.

I can get roids easily so sparing them is not really a concern but Id prefer not to have to take test for a cut.
I figure the winny wont shut me down so thats why Im following this option.

[Njord]

I'm not used to advising cycles w/out test, but I think a winny+clen stack should be quite mild, except for your liver, of course...just make sure you have completely recovered your natty test production before start again.
A 50mg/day of winny and 120mcg of clen for 6 weeks will be ok. BTW I'd suggest to start clen a few weeks before winny, because you don't have to rest for it after your andro cycle, and it works better for more than 6 weeks as well.
The results depends on your diet firstly, as ever. that stack will absolutely help you with your cut if your diet is strict and well planned.

CL

I agree on Chuck on this one. If I ever decided to run an oral cycle, it would be with winny and running clen as well. Of course followed by proper pct. I would only do this at a lower bf% (12% and below).

As far as adding winny to the end of your cycle Bigdog, I wouldn't do it. At the higher bf % I think you would be disappointed in the results, as well as putting extra strain on your liver/lipid values.

[BIGDOGIRISH]

I agree on Chuck on this one. If I ever decided to run an oral cycle, it would be with winny and running clen as well. Of course followed by proper pct. I would only do this at a lower bf% (12% and below).

As far as adding winny to the end of your cycle Bigdog, I wouldn't do it. At the higher bf % I think you would be disappointed in the results, as well as putting extra strain on your liver/lipid values.

Yeah I'll hold off doing it at the end of cycle so.
I'll post a pic when I get a chance and somone might throw a guess at my BF%. Its really only my midsection thats fat. Its like Iv a beergut if I dont suck it in. Sucked in the shape of my abs are slighlty there.