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    For starters, I need to know what ester test. You show running the test through week 10 and pct starting at week 11, but if you are using a long ester or blend with long esters (test e, test c, sust, omnadren, etc.) then you are not allowing time for the test to clear your system prior to starting pct.
    As for reducing bloating, you could run arimidex at .25 eod as needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    For starters, I need to know what ester test. You show running the test through week 10 and pct starting at week 11, but if you are using a long ester or blend with long esters (test e, test c, sust, omnadren, etc.) then you are not allowing time for the test to clear your system prior to starting pct.
    As for reducing bloating, you could run arimidex at .25 eod as needed.
    Oops yeah I forgot to mention that its enanthate. I have read conflicting info about how much time to leave between the end of the cycle and commencing pct. How many weeks would you suggest big? Iv heard 3-4 in the past.

    Arimidex sounds like a good idea, im aware that tamoxifen (or any serm ) would be a bad choice with the deca as its a 19-nor. Hopefully at the dose you suggested bloating would be reduced without affecting the gains to much. Actually I already have some aromasin on order from ar-r, could i substitute that, if that at what dose?
    Last edited by mick86; 04-11-2008 at 06:48 AM. Reason: typo's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    For starters, I need to know what ester test. You show running the test through week 10 and pct starting at week 11, but if you are using a long ester or blend with long esters (test e, test c, sust, omnadren, etc.) then you are not allowing time for the test to clear your system prior to starting pct.
    As for reducing bloating, you could run arimidex at .25 eod as needed.
    Big In regards to waiting a few weeks after the cycle to commence PCT I based my PCT on the information found in the following thread by Anthony Roberts. What are your thoughts on the below theory?

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

    Here is where Anthony Roberts explains why he doesn't believe that you should wait to commence PCT.

    "With this PCT, there will be a rapid increase in LH, FSH, and testosterone, as well as almost a complete block on all the factors that could be causing your natural hormones to be delayed in returning to baseline. For this reason, I feel that the second your cycle is over is when you should start this PCT (a week after your last shot, or the day after your last pill is fine). Remember, waiting for some of the extra androgens you’ve been taking to leave your body is nonsensical, as we want to start recovery as soon as possible to retain maximum gains. There is no evidence to suggest waiting any length of time after your cycle is over will increase PCT effectiveness…it simply prolongs the time you aren’t doing anything positive to regain your natural hormones."

    Does anyone have any input on the questions I asked about my PCT in the above post?

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