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  1. #1
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    First off... You took way too much Var for your first time. You couldve seen a lot better results by halving the var mg ed and running it twice as long

    secondly.. You probably should have started with a test only cycle or test EQ cycle or test deca cycle.

    Thirdly you're killing your liver bro... Take some milk thistle... Really cheap and really worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansas City Boy View Post
    First off... You took way too much Var for your first time. You couldve seen a lot better results by halving the var mg ed and running it twice as long

    secondly.. You probably should have started with a test only cycle or test EQ cycle or test deca cycle.

    Thirdly you're killing your liver bro... Take some milk thistle... Really cheap and really worth it

    hepatoxicity is way over exaggerated..the liver is very resilient and is designed to handle stress afterall its the bodies toxin filter..you should worry more about your cholesterol values as oral steroids destroy your profile in a very short time..youre HDL is probably close to zero already

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    My Trainning and diet are as good as it will ever get. I can go through the whole diet and 5 days i spend in the gym for 2hrs. but that is not the point...

    I have managed to loose 7-9%BF and keep my weight between 185-190lbs, everything i read on all the compounds lead me to belive that they cut fat as well as build muscle. And that is right here on this website. I am sure there are many people here that get to the point of frustration and look for the extra edge to gain the extra pound of mucsle, or loose those last few pounds of fat. the point is, it is the last few steps of anything that is the hardest.

    that brings me to now... It is still be reccomended for me to take a test cycle, or a test/decca cycle.

    sust250 is test... Right? so what is wrong with me doing the sust250 and decca. I can stop the winni and save it for a second cycle down the road.

    I have 10weeks worth of anavar that i can add the winni too for a later cycle. Or I can add the Var to this cycle 3/4 through...

    Serious, what bennifit of me stopping and reading up on all of this is going to do. I will still need advice on a PCT later on. so why is everyone so relectant to help me... Why can't i get any straight answers here, other then STOP my cycle...

    Help me figure out a plan for what I have, it can be altered right ? then help me with a PCT ?

    PLease

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814 View Post
    hepatoxicity is way over exaggerated..the liver is very resilient and is designed to handle stress afterall its the bodies toxin filter..you should worry more about your cholesterol values as oral steroids destroy your profile in a very short time..youre HDL is probably close to zero already
    Hey man, bump that up. Longhorn I have noticed you are all over oral posts with cholesterol. I do agree with you that many people do not think about what oral steroids do to you internally; did you get negative bloodwork back that changed your mind on orals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Ro View Post
    Hey man, bump that up. Longhorn I have noticed you are all over oral posts with cholesterol. I do agree with you that many people do not think about what oral steroids do to you internally; did you get negative bloodwork back that changed your mind on orals?
    yeah Ive always gotten bloodwork done before, during, after cycle and I see how negatively oral steroids affect your lipids value..injectable affect it to a degree but not like orals..ive seen my HDL go from 38 to 10 in 8 days before..i had a girl that worked in a lab and would test me everyweek..think about it..where is cholesterol generated? In the liver..so if youre stressing your liver with orals, its not going to be able to generate cholesterol properly..theres nothing wrong with orals but a lot of people dont think about the cholesterol side..they worry more about the liver than their lipids and I think thats something people need to be more aware of

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