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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    Your question is funny. I know you directed your question to BigMc31 but I'm going to throw in my two cents.

    Obama won 92% of the Black vote. From PA exit polling.

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    Maybe we support his platform and feel he is a better candidate than Clinton. I think 20-30% are anti Clinton votes. She was getting around 30% of the Black vote before her campaign started race baiting in South Carolina. It pissed people off. He's won 90% ever since.
    I'm sorry bro, I'm not buying it. Just like you aren't buying the 8% factor. It is just a little to convenient that Obama is getting ALL the black vote, considering Clinton was very very popular with blacks for a longggg time. Frankly, I find it a bit naive to not even question the motives behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Act of God View Post
    I'm sorry bro, I'm not buying it. Just like you aren't buying the 8% factor. It is just a little to convenient that Obama is getting ALL the black vote, considering Clinton was very very popular with blacks for a longggg time. Frankly, I find it a bit naive to not even question the motives behind it.
    So you're saying every Black person lied in the exit poll? They said race of the candidate was not considered.

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    I think 20-30% are anti Clinton votes. She was getting around 30% of the Black vote before her campaign started race baiting in South Carolina. It pissed people off. He's won 90% and higher ever since.
    The Clintons had the support of the Black community until South Carolina. If Black people voted for him because he's Black the numbers would have been higher in previous states. The numbers shot up in South Carolina after Bill Clinton and campaign surrogates started race baiting. His vote went to 80%. After Geraldine Ferraro's ignorant racial comments, his numbers went to 90%. That's why I said I think 20-30% are anti Clinton votes. I have Black female friends at work who voted for Clinton and now after everything her campaign has done and said they're donating money to Obama's campaign. The Clinton's have no one but themselves to blame for losing the Black vote. You piss people off, they will not vote for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    So you're saying every Black person lied in the exit poll? They said race of the candidate was not considered.

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    The Clintons had the support of the Black community until South Carolina. If Black people voted for him because he's Black the numbers would have been higher in previous states. The numbers shot up in South Carolina after Bill Clinton and campaign surrogates started race baiting. His vote went to 80%. After Geraldine Ferraro's ignorant racial comments, his numbers went to 90%. That's why I said I think 20-30% are anti Clinton votes. I have Black female friends at work who voted for Clinton and now after everything her campaign has done and said they're donating money to Obama's campaign. The Clinton's have no one but themselves to blame for losing the Black vote. You piss people off, they will not vote for you!
    I know this is completely anecdotal but I'm watching similar conversations on about 5 other boards (mostly automobile and sports related). Dead honest, in every board the biggest and most vocal Obama pushers are black guys. Do I think blacks lied in the exit polls? Yes, to an extent. Admitting you are voting for someone because he is black takes away from that person's accomplishments and blacks are very wary of being branded with getting something purely because of their skin color. I went to school with a bunch of black dudes (college and law school) who will never admit that being black had anything to do with their acceptance (even though they had sub par grades/LSAT's). At the same time, I know super rich white kids who will never admit that their daddy got them a job or got them into school. People in general, I guess, like to pretend they earned everything themselves even when they didn't.

    You clearly have no problem assuming whites lied in their exit poll numbers, but all of a sudden believing blacks did is crazy? Come on man, let's be honest with ourselves. People tend to vote for people who look like them or who they feel comfortable/relatable to, period. Asians vote for Asians. Hispanics vote for Hispanics. Whites for for Whites. That is human nature, blacks are no different.

    I'm fairly certain the black population of America aren't Marxist socialists, so I'm willing to believe there are other factors involved with the BO love affair.
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